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Old 08-06-2013, 03:49 PM   #1
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Tracy Porter was benched most of the season. Harris was the #2 and moved inside in the nickel. Unless DRC beats him out, we'll repeat that. Also, Miller has not been suspended yet.

Why do you doubt that Manning can throw with authority?
Porter was also the only semi-starter you lost. I know he had an issue with seizures and missed most of the season. Thus, I was comparing the loss of Porter to the addition of DRC.

I doubt the second one because his arm seemed to lose some serious velocity in the last few games of the season, especially in the playoffs. I don't see how that improves, nor do I think that injury lets him throw the ball with the velocity he once did, and to be honest, he never had an overpowering arm or threw a super tight spiral.
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Old 08-06-2013, 04:04 PM   #2
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Porter was also the only semi-starter you lost. I know he had an issue with seizures and missed most of the season. Thus, I was comparing the loss of Porter to the addition of DRC.

I doubt the second one because his arm seemed to lose some serious velocity in the last few games of the season, especially in the playoffs. I don't see how that improves, nor do I think that injury lets him throw the ball with the velocity he once did, and to be honest, he never had an overpowering arm or threw a super tight spiral.
Yeah, I wasn't saying you were wrong about Porter, just clarifying that he was never really an important part of the defense.

I agree that velocity and perfect spirals have never been part of his success, so I'm not really sure why the possibility of losing some of those aspects would mean he couldn't be dominant again. Obviously training camp reports should be taken with a grain of salt, but apparently Manning looks like he's in better shape and is throwing better than he was last year at this point.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:24 PM   #3
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Yeah, I wasn't saying you were wrong about Porter, just clarifying that he was never really an important part of the defense.

I agree that velocity and perfect spirals have never been part of his success, so I'm not really sure why the possibility of losing some of those aspects would mean he couldn't be dominant again. Obviously training camp reports should be taken with a grain of salt, but apparently Manning looks like he's in better shape and is throwing better than he was last year at this point.
Think of it like baseball. Manning never threw 97, but that doesn't mean that the difference between 90 and 87 is insignificant. His lack of arm strength was evident in that playoff game. That could be an issue with the cold (supposedly it was with Favre as he aged), a loss of velocity due to age, a combination of both, or after-effects of his neck procedure.

A Denver fan is hoping for the latter, and it's not an unreasonable hope.

I just know that, generally, once someone loses throwing velocity it doesn't come back.
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I'm still waiting for you to tell us all that the Broncos will beat the Ravens, Giants, Patriots, Cowboys, Texans, Redskins and Colts.
They can probably beat 3-4 of those teams.

Here's how I see Denver doing.

Ravens - W
@ Giants - L
Raiders - W
Eagles - W
@ Cowboys - W
Jaguars - W
@ Colts - W
Redskins - W
@ Chargers - L
Chiefs - W
@ Patriots - L
@ Chiefs - W
Titans - W
Chargers - W
@ Texans - L
@ Raiders - W

12-4, and probably a first round bye.
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