***Official Gruden QB Camp Thread***

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Really?





And how many playoff wins and Super Bowls did two of the best offensive tackles in the history of the NFL win exactly?

This is not a good argument. As if it's their fault they didn't win. The Bengals went to their only 2 Super Bowls with Munoz at LT, and the rise and fall of the greatest offense in Chiefs history is directly correlated with Willie Roaf.

If Luke Joeckel were either one of these guys, I probably would favor taking him 1st. Or at the least... that wouldn't be a bad pick, you'd be set for a decade plus and they'd legitimately raise the level of your offense. There are plenty of Super Bowl teams that had 1st round picks at LT. The Ravens this past year had former 1st round picks at both tackles. The correct answer is 1) Joeckel is probably not Willie Roaf, and even if he is 2) we already have a 1st round LT who has developed and performed at a very high level, despite the calls from some fans to replace him with guys like Russell Okung.

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Originally Posted by tk13

This is not a good argument. As if it's their fault they didn't win. The Bengals went to their only 2 Super Bowls with Munoz at LT, and the rise and fall of the greatest offense in Chiefs history is directly correlated with Willie Roaf.

If Luke Joeckel were either one of these guys, I probably would favor taking him 1st. Or at the least... that wouldn't be a bad pick, you'd be set for a decade plus and they'd legitimately raise the level of your offense. There are plenty of Super Bowl teams that had 1st round picks at LT. The Ravens this past year had former 1st round picks at both tackles. The correct answer is 1) Joeckel is probably not Willie Roaf, and even if he is 2) we already have a 1st round LT who has developed and performed at a very high level, despite the calls from some fans to replace him with guys like Russell Okung.

If Joekel were Roaf, sure I'd consider taking him over Geno. Then again, if Joekel is Roaf, and Geno is Manning or Montana I'm taking Geno without a moment's hesitation.

Gotta be fair here, neither is Roaf or Montana, but in the same vein, I'll always prefer the QB over the LT given the same quality of player at their respective positions.