New York Soda Drinkers, REJOICE!

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You do realize that diabetes is quickly becoming an epidemic, right? And that obesity now costs America about 190 billion in health care costs. And that healthy people are picking up the tab for unhealthy people in the form of higher premiums and reduced access to quick medical care?

Yes I do. Does that mean the government needs to limit soft drink size? I'm all for spending money to educate, although these are the same people who pushed margarine over butter. Again, not saying soda is good for you, but this is slippery slope. Why is everyone so keen on giving your decision making over to the government? Be a man, be an individual. Make your own decisions. You self righteous people cannot save everyone, and what gave you the right to make decisions for everyone else?

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by ping2000

Yes I do. Does that mean the government needs to limit soft drink size? I'm all for spending money to educate, although these are the same people who pushed margarine over butter. Again, not saying soda is good for you, but this is slippery slope. Why is everyone so keen on giving your decision making over to the government? Be a man, be an individual. Make your own decisions. You self righteous people cannot save everyone, and what gave you the right to make decisions for everyone else?

I agree. I don't want the government making decisions for people.

Why are there so many ridiculously fat people walking around eating shit, drinking soda, smoking cigarettes, etc? What is going on that makes so many people completely neglect themselves?

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by Omaha

I agree. I don't want the government making decisions for people.

Why are there so many ridiculously fat people walking around eating shit, drinking soda, smoking cigarettes, etc? What is going on that makes so many people completely neglect themselves?

Short term pleasure overrides rational thought about long term helath benefits. Until the pain of being obese becomes severe enough, it is not enough to get them to stop the bad behavior. Point is, this should be an individual choice, not the government. And all of the BS about health costs, don't be so easily swayed by government statistics. They have an agenda too. These are the same people that told us the world would end by cutting 2.5% from the budget.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by ping2000

Short term pleasure overrides rational thought about long term helath benefits. Until the pain of being obese becomes severe enough, it is not enough to get them to stop the bad behavior. Point is, this should be an individual choice, not the government. And all of the BS about health costs, don't be so easily swayed by government statistics. They have an agenda too. These are the same people that told us the world would end by cutting 2.5% from the budget.

What BS about health costs? You don't think health costs are actually rising and have been drastically doing so for some time?

It's not government statistics. The government isn't the sole source of statistics and information about rising health costs. That can be found from any independent source. And it's an overwhelmingly agreed fact that healthcare costs are drastically rising and will continue to do so until serious changes are made.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Omaha

I agree. I don't want the government making decisions for people.

Why are there so many ridiculously fat people walking around eating shit, drinking soda, smoking cigarettes, etc? What is going on that makes so many people completely neglect themselves?

Mental health, and self worth.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Mental health, and self worth.

Are you suggesting that the majority of the people I see around my office have mental heath/self worth issues?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Omaha

Are you suggesting that the majority of the people I see around my office have mental heath/self worth issues?

There's also a great deal of ignorance, genetics, and other things that play into it as well. Now, I'm not saying that's everything. I don't want you to think for 1 second I'm downplaying laziness, apathy, and a major lack of self discipline. Those things are the ones we always beat on. I'm talking about the secondary issues.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

There's also a great deal of ignorance, genetics, and other things that play into it as well. Now, I'm not saying that's everything. I don't want you to think for 1 second I'm downplaying laziness, apathy, and a major lack of self discipline. Those things are the ones we always beat on. I'm talking about the secondary issues.

The "secondary issues" can usually be easily overcome. So can the rest of it. It simply defies logic.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Omaha

The "secondary issues" can usually be easily overcome. So can the rest of it. It simply defies logic.

You clearly have little to no understanding of psychology or human behavior. They can be overcome, but to suggest is usually easy or defies logic is simply ignorant.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Omaha

I agree. I don't want the government making decisions for people.

Why are there so many ridiculously fat people walking around eating shit, drinking soda, smoking cigarettes, etc? What is going on that makes so many people completely neglect themselves?

That's a very good question. It's simply unacceptable and these people need understand their unhealthy lifestyle affects others as well and they need to make serious changes in their lives.

(lights up cigarette)

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

That's a very good question. It's simply unacceptable and these people need understand their unhealthy lifestyle affects others as well and they need to make serious changes in their lives.

(lights up cigarette)

Haha. I'm not suggesting that we should have a bunch of healthy little clones. We all have bad habits. You exercise and keep yourself in pretty good shape in spite some bad habits. The same is true for me and many others. I'm talking about the extremely unhealthy people who seemingly don't care about what is happening to them.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ping2000

Yes I do. Does that mean the government needs to limit soft drink size? I'm all for spending money to educate, although these are the same people who pushed margarine over butter. Again, not saying soda is good for you, but this is slippery slope. Why is everyone so keen on giving your decision making over to the government? Be a man, be an individual. Make your own decisions. You self righteous people cannot save everyone, and what gave you the right to make decisions for everyone else?

I don't support the soda ban.