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**FRCDFED** · 02-19-2013, 09:05 AM

Mayock sees four options for Chiefs at No. 1

Posted by Mike Florio on February 19, 2013, 9:02 AM EST

APOn Monday, preeminent draft guru Mike Mayock participated in a pre-Combine conference call that lasted more than 2.5 hours. Tirelessly answering question after question, Mayock demonstrated once again a computerized recall of names and teams and needs.

With plenty of interest focused on what will happen at the top of the draft, Mayock eventually was asked to identify the players he believes to be worthy of the first overall pick, held by the Chiefs.

Mayock said there are four: Alabama guard Chance Warmack; North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper; Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel; and Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Warmack is Mayock’s preference. “People will tell me I’m crazy, that a guard can’t go No. 1,” Mayock explained. “I think he’s the best player in the draft, so I would argue that.”

The list doesn’t create the kind of sizzle to which we’ve become accustomed at the top of the draft. And for good reason. There are no quarterbacks regarded as worthy of being the first overall pick this year.

Mayock realizes that the Chiefs’ needs could be influenced by their decision regarding tackle Branden Albert (who could actually move to guard if a guy like Joeckel is drafted with the first pick). Still, Chiefs coach Andy Reid learned the hard way in 2012 the importance of having a high-end offensive live. With a cluster of high-quality blockers at the top of the draft and a rookie wage scale to keep the total cost far less than what it would be to sign Albert to a long-term deal, the Chiefs could opt for the lineman whom they decide they like the most.

And then they’d hope that the rest of the teams agree with G.M. John Dorsey’s assessment that none of the quarterbacks merit a first-round selection. Which would push all of the quarterbacks to the Chiefs at the top of round two.

suds79 · 02-19-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

When you take a QB at #1 and he doesn't pan out you have just ****ed yourself for the foreseeable future. You HAVE to hit with #1

Here's what's great about taking a QB #1 in today's draft pay scale.

Lets say the worse possible thing happens. (keep that in mind) If he's a bust what happens? You're 3-13 a lot the next couple of years and you're sitting #1 or 2 a few years down the road. Then you're in the perfect position to get the next highest rated QB. You do it again.

If you hit, you have a good chance to win a SB.

The worse possible thing they could do is play it safe at QB and get say an Alex Smith. The kind of guy who will be just good enough to hold onto the job for about 5 years and realistically never get close to a QB. Then he's done after that and you're draft 17th in the first round. It's the perfect recipe for mediocrity.

Give me an A or give me an F.

htismaqe · 02-19-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

I'm trying not to approach it from that angle. I just want to be sure we get some good football players on this team with great attitudes. I like smash-mouth Martyball as much as the next guy but I also like the Coryell "air-it-out" offense. We have a one-in-a-lifetime running back with Charles. I would hate to waste that talent ala B. Sanders in Detroit.

Why did Barry Sanders go to waste in Detroit?

Because he NEVER had a QB.

Erik ****ing Kramer? Scott Mitchell?

They surrounded Sanders with retreads and castoffs.

The lesson is CLEAR.

htismaqe · 02-19-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

You're not going to shit can a QB after year one. You're going to give him 3 years . Does that explain it for you ?

The Dolphins "hit" on Jake Long. How did that work out?

Hog's Gone Fishin · 02-19-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

how can anyone still believe this nonsense?

we've ****ed ourselves for decades without drafting a QB...

I'm just saying ,that if the QB's available all suck then don't waste the #1 overall pick praying everyone was wrong.

I understand this franchise is a QB away from being a playoff team and I believe that Reid / Dorsey will make the right move at #1. Just remember Jamarcus Russel was a #1 pick too.

suds79 · 02-19-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I'm just saying ,that if the QB's available all suck then don't waste the #1 overall pick praying everyone was wrong.

Sure if the Chiefs evaluate that they're all garbage, then don't do it.

But I find that hard to believe.

More than anything, I think it would be a shame for the Chiefs to walk away from this draft without their top rated QB prospect. They need to make that happen.

The safest way is #1 but it's their call.

jspchief · 02-19-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

You're not going to shit can a QB after year one. You're going to give him 3 years . Does that explain it for you ?

Am I being trolled? Is there a boar semen punchline coming?

What #1 overall are you going to shitcan after 1 year?

**FRCDFED** · 02-19-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Why did Barry Sanders go to waste in Detroit?

Because he NEVER had a QB.

Erik ****ing Kramer? Scott Mitchell?

They surrounded Sanders with retreads and castoffs.

The lesson is CLEAR.

There are scary similarities between that Detroit team and this Chiefs team. The glaring need on both teams was/is a QB. I don't recall what other options the Lions had to pursue back then at QB but what I do know is that I want to build a TEAM around Charles. Including our glaring need of getting a solid QB.

**FRCDFED** · 02-19-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Am I being trolled? Is there a boar semen punchline coming?

What #1 overall are you going to shitcan after 1 year?

You deserve to get trolled with that example of a whiney ass accesssory to murder you have as your avatar!!

Ray Lewis:

"They're double-teaming me coach"

Roaf/Shields: wut?

lol

patteeu · 02-19-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Leonard Davis went #2 overall in 2001. Turley #7 overall '98.

Since Davis, I don't think there's even been a guard taken in the top

Someone may have already pointed this out, but Leonard Davis was drafted to be a LT. He just never panned out at that position.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 02-19-2013, 10:39 AM

What have Mathew Stafford and Phillip Rivers done for their franchises ??????

Answer: Not shit because they don't have that ELITE Guard !

**FRCDFED** · 02-19-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

What have Mathew Stafford and Phillip Rivers done for their franchises ??????

Answer: Not shit because they don't have that ELITE Guard !

Pasta Little Brioni · 02-19-2013, 10:40 AM

PGM sees four options for Mayock after this take:

Retire
Apologize
Pretend
Exit

Rasputin · 02-19-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

There are scary similarities between that Detroit team and this Chiefs team. The glaring need on both teams was/is a QB. I don't recall what other options the Lions had to pursue back then at QB but what I do know is that I want to build a TEAM around Charles. Including our glaring need of getting a solid QB.

I love Charles but you don't build a team around a RB. Get the QB and build the team around the QB imo is the best way and get the QB from the draft. Have your own guy for years to come. RBs are lucky to last five seasons and keep a high level of production up.

AdumbGuy · 02-19-2013, 10:52 AM

Guys, guys, Mayock came to me in my sleep and told me why we're drafting a guard first overall. We'll need the greatest guard in the history of the NFL draft for our new offense.

First, we're resigning albert and moving him to guard. But that makes 3 guards starting, what are we going to do with Warmack, you say? Quarterguard!

Who's going to take the handoff? Are they going to punt? Defenses won't know what to do!

**** you Mayock.

htismaqe · 02-19-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Sure if the Chiefs evaluate that they're all garbage, then don't do it.

But I find that hard to believe.

More than anything, I think it would be a shame for the Chiefs to walk away from this draft without their top rated QB prospect. They need to make that happen.

The safest way is #1 but it's their call.

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FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	Mayock sees four options for the Chiefs at No. 1 Mayock sees four options for Chiefs at No. 1 Posted by Mike Florio on February 19, 2013, 9:02 AM EST APOn Monday, preeminent draft guru Mike Mayock participated in a pre-Combine conference call that lasted more than 2.5 hours. Tirelessly answering question after question, Mayock demonstrated once again a computerized recall of names and teams and needs. With plenty of interest focused on what will happen at the top of the draft, Mayock eventually was asked to identify the players he believes to be worthy of the first overall pick, held by the Chiefs. Mayock said there are four: Alabama guard Chance Warmack; North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper; Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel; and Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher. Warmack is Mayock’s preference. “People will tell me I’m crazy, that a guard can’t go No. 1,” Mayock explained. “I think he’s the best player in the draft, so I would argue that.” The list doesn’t create the kind of sizzle to which we’ve become accustomed at the top of the draft. And for good reason. There are no quarterbacks regarded as worthy of being the first overall pick this year. Mayock realizes that the Chiefs’ needs could be influenced by their decision regarding tackle Branden Albert (who could actually move to guard if a guy like Joeckel is drafted with the first pick). Still, Chiefs coach Andy Reid learned the hard way in 2012 the importance of having a high-end offensive live. With a cluster of high-quality blockers at the top of the draft and a rookie wage scale to keep the total cost far less than what it would be to sign Albert to a long-term deal, the Chiefs could opt for the lineman whom they decide they like the most. And then they’d hope that the rest of the teams agree with G.M. John Dorsey’s assessment that none of the quarterbacks merit a first-round selection. Which would push all of the quarterbacks to the Chiefs at the top of round two.
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AdumbGuy Starter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Dominica, no seriously. Casino cash: $10004900	Guys, guys, Mayock came to me in my sleep and told me why we're drafting a guard first overall. We'll need the greatest guard in the history of the NFL draft for our new offense. First, we're resigning albert and moving him to guard. But that makes 3 guards starting, what are we going to do with Warmack, you say? Quarterguard! Who's going to take the handoff? Are they going to punt? Defenses won't know what to do! **** you Mayock.
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