The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

A HOF LT wins us what, exactly? We've had a pretty damn good one (not HOF, but good enough) for the past two seasons. So why does our offense struggle the way it does despite that LT and a RB that rivals Jim ****ing Brown in career YPC?

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

Nope...

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

A HOF LT wins jack and shit until the team gets a QB.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

That's not the question, Bill O'Reilly.

We have the choice between Geno and Joeckel. You asked which is more likely, Joeckel as a HOF LT or Geno as a HOF QB. I said it doesn't matter because a HOF LT doesn't win you shit. Then you started talking about journeyman QBs.

You can't do that. We're talking about the rewards outweighing the risks. Right now the likelihood of Joeckel or Geno being HOF is low and negligible. You have to logically assume that Geno will be a HOF QB in order to balance the hypothetical.

Here it is again. A HOF LT gets you nothing. A HOF QB gets you immortality.

Take the QB over the LT. Every ****ing time. Especially when it's the difference between the potential for greatness of players like Joeckel and Geno.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

That's not the question, Bill O'Reilly.

We have the choice between Geno and Joeckel. You asked which is more likely, Joeckel as a HOF LT or Geno as a HOF QB. I said it doesn't matter because a HOF LT doesn't win you shit. Then you started talking about journeyman QBs.

You can't do that. We're talking about the rewards outweighing the risks. Right now the likelihood of Joeckel or Geno being HOF is low and negligible. You have to logically assume that Geno will be a HOF QB in order to balance the hypothetical.

Here it is again. A HOF LT gets you nothing. A HOF QB gets you immortality.

Take the QB over the LT. Every ****ing time. Especially when it's the difference between the potential for greatness of players like Joeckel and Geno.

This is the kind of question people who have no clue about talent ask because it then just becomes a simple question to answer based on generic positional importance. It's all just random luck so let's swing for a QB, the most important position of all.

People who do this professionally, actually assess the quality of the individual players before making a choice in the draft. If they assess the LT and the QB to be equally talented (with equal needs at the positions), they'll end up picking the QB just like you want. The only reason they would pick Joeckel ahead of a QB would be if they decided the quality differential was great.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by patteeu

This is the kind of question people who have no clue about talent ask because it then just becomes a simple question to answer based on generic positional importance. It's all just random luck so let's swing for a QB, the most important position of all.

People who do this professionally, actually assess the quality of the individual players before making a choice in the draft. If they assess the LT and the QB to be equally talented (with equal needs at the positions), they'll end up picking the QB just like you want. The only reason they would pick Joeckel ahead of a QB would be if they decided the quality differential was great.

Jake Long was so much greater at his position than Matt Ryan was at his.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by milkman

Jake Long was so much greater at his position than Matt Ryan was at his.

Was he?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

Also, Albert isn't a HOF LT, but he's pretty good.

I'll ask again. Why has our offense struggled so ****ing much even though we've got our nice safe game manager QB and a ****ing RB who rivals Jim Brown's career YPC?

That should be a formula for playoffs every year. What gives?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

Also, Albert isn't a HOF LT, but he's pretty good.

I'll ask again. Why has our offense struggled so ****ing much even though we've got our nice safe game manager QB and a ****ing RB who rivals Jim Brown's career YPC?

That should be a formula for playoffs every year. What gives?

I don't know why you're asking me this question.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I don't know why you're asking me this question.

Because your attempt to turn back the dial on the Geno/QB excitement to a reasonable level to your liking is dumb and stupid.

I know you're on the same page as us when it comes to a QB, but in your attempt to talk football, you're inadvertently giving credence to the fallacious "BPA in a vacuum" theory. That's a bad argument is all I'm trying to say. It seems like some skepticism should be taken when analyzing the Chiefs picking Geno, but there really is none to be applied.

He is THE ONLY pick that makes sense. I'm sorry you can't see that.