WalterFootball mocks 2013

[the Talking Can]

updated with latest - Feb 27th

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

1. Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M

2. Kansas City Chiefs: Margus Hunt, DE/DT, SMU

3. Kansas City Chiefs: Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State

4. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas

[ArrowheadMagic]

Originally Posted by milkman

I haven't watched college football as much this year as I have in the past.

I have watched every geno Smith game but 2, and watched all of Tyler Wilson's games that have aired here, as well as all of Matt Barkley's game.

Which leads me to this question.

Who would be the best available strong safety so that we could move Berry to free?

Best case scenario is Matt Elam from Florida falling to the top of the 2nd. Partial to Jefferson from OU, similar type player as Berry, but he kind of faded towards the end of the season. Played poorly in the Cotton bowl. Looked slow, but he has been dealing with injuries. Interested to see him at the combine.

Honestly, think it might be better to address the back 7 thru FA and draft for depth. Anything to get Lewis and Brown off the field.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Dorsey and Jackson will likely both be gone...Unless they are able towork something out with both of them...We need DL again.

3-4 DEs can be drafted late. Hell, you can find good ones as UDFA.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

3-4 DEs can be drafted late. Hell, you can find good ones as UDFA.

Yeah true.

However, if Hunt is what everyone says he is or will be, if he were there in the second I'd think about taking him.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah true.

However, if Hunt is what everyone says he is or will be, if he were there in the second I'd think about taking him.

For nearly 10 years, Bruce Feldman, a writer for CBSSports.com, has annually compiled what he calls a "Freak List" of the 10 college football players he considers the most freakish athletes. In 2012, Hunt was on top of his list. According to Feldman, Hunt "sounds like a PlayStation football creation"—despite his 82-inch (2.1 m) wingspan, he is able to bench press 225 pounds (102 kg) 35 times, and has also cleaned 384 pounds (174 kg) and snatched 345 pounds (156 kg). Hunt also boasts a 36-inch (91 cm) vertical jump. Wollman predicts that Hunt will have 45 repetitions and a 4.6-second 40-yard dash at the 2013 NFL combine

However, I'd much rather have a starting CB in the second and someone like Joe Kruger in the fourth/fifth. There is going to be a really good CB sitting there with that second round pick.

[O.city]

Yeah, CB is a need.


TBH, if we were to sign Talib in free agency, I woudln't be upset.

[the Talking Can]

updated on 23rd...late round changes

1. Geno Smith
2. Justin Hunter

3. Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
Glenn Dorsey will be a free agent in March and Tyson Jackson is due more than $14 million next year, so it appears as though their disappointing tenures in Kansas City are coming to an end.

4. Brandon Jenkins, DE/OLB, Florida State
The Chiefs don't have much depth behind Tamba Hali and Justin Houston - as they discovered in the Week 1 loss to Atlanta - so they could spend an early 2013 NFL Draft pick on a rush linebacker.

[Frosty]

I would love to pick Datone Jones. However, I doubt he makes it to the 3rd.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

new one up today
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
Scott Pioli was fired, as the awesome @saveourchiefs movement was pushing for, and he's been replaced by Andy Reid and his staff. The question is whether Reid will take a shot on a quarterback or go the safe route with Luke Joeckel.

Chris Mortensen said Monday that he expects Joeckel to be the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, but has a feeling that Reid will select a quarterback - which means he expects him to trade down. I agree with Mort. I'm not sure about the moving down part - Kansas City will sure as hell try - but here's why Geno Smith will be the pick, barring any big acquisition in free agency:

1. New regimes mean new quarterbacks, and if history is any indication, Reid will use this pick on Smith. Reid eschewed all the top free-agent quarterbacks when he took over as the Eagles' head coach, taking a mobile, Big East product with a good deep ball and upside instead. Well, Smith is a mobile, (former) Big East product with a good deep ball and upside. He fits perfectly into Reid's offense.

2. ESPN and other outlets will tell you that Smith nor any other signal-caller is worth taking No. 1 overall, but that could easily change. Remember two years ago when ESPN was mocking Da'Quan Bowers and Nick Fairley to the Panthers? Well, Cam Newton ballooned to the top, as will some other quarterback this year. It could be Smith, Matt Barkley or Mike Glennon. We'll see. Three months is a long time.

3. Think no one believes Smith is worth the No. 1 pick? Think again. Anthony Gargano of 94 WIP in Philadelphia revealed that he spoke to a general manager who told him that he would draft Smith with the first-overall selection. This is just one general manager, but if one GM wants Smith that badly, then there's a chance that several do. Smith has a ton of upside, so a quarterback-friendly coach like Reid might think he could coach him up to a Pro Bowl level.

4. My Chiefs' source, who has a high success rate of delivering Kansas City's first-round picks, told me Smith is currently the favorite to go No. 1 overall, but conceded that it's still too early in the process. He said that the combination of Joeckel and Tyler Wilson is also a strong possibility.

[Titty Meat]

Ill take a play making WR over a CB any day of the week. You can win in this league with an average #2 CB.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

new one up today
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
Scott ***** was fired, as the awesome @saveourchiefs movement was pushing for, and he's been replaced by Andy Reid and his staff. The question is whether Reid will take a shot on a quarterback or go the safe route with Luke Joeckel.

Chris Mortensen said Monday that he expects Joeckel to be the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, but has a feeling that Reid will select a quarterback - which means he expects him to trade down. I agree with Mort. I'm not sure about the moving down part - Kansas City will sure as hell try - but here's why Geno Smith will be the pick, barring any big acquisition in free agency:

1. New regimes mean new quarterbacks, and if history is any indication, Reid will use this pick on Smith. Reid eschewed all the top free-agent quarterbacks when he took over as the Eagles' head coach, taking a mobile, Big East product with a good deep ball and upside instead. Well, Smith is a mobile, (former) Big East product with a good deep ball and upside. He fits perfectly into Reid's offense.

2. ESPN and other outlets will tell you that Smith nor any other signal-caller is worth taking No. 1 overall, but that could easily change. Remember two years ago when ESPN was mocking Da'Quan Bowers and Nick Fairley to the Panthers? Well, Cam Newton ballooned to the top, as will some other quarterback this year. It could be Smith, Matt Barkley or Mike Glennon. We'll see. Three months is a long time.

3. Think no one believes Smith is worth the No. 1 pick? Think again. Anthony Gargano of 94 WIP in Philadelphia revealed that he spoke to a general manager who told him that he would draft Smith with the first-overall selection. This is just one general manager, but if one GM wants Smith that badly, then there's a chance that several do. Smith has a ton of upside, so a quarterback-friendly coach like Reid might think he could coach him up to a Pro Bowl level.

4. My Chiefs' source, who has a high success rate of delivering Kansas City's first-round picks, told me Smith is currently the favorite to go No. 1 overall, but conceded that it's still too early in the process. He said that the combination of Joeckel and Tyler Wilson is also a strong possibility.

Wowsers.

[The Franchise]

On Jarvis Jones falling (He has him going #17 in his latest mock):

Jarvis Jones Expected To Slide on Draft Day
Published Jan. 18, 2013
By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

Georgia outside linebacker Jarvis Jones had been one of the most dominant football players in college football the past two seasons. He's destroyed the SEC for those two years, as many consider him to be one of the most talented players in the 2013 NFL Draft class. Jones is on top of my 2013 NFL Draft Big Board, as well as ESPN's Mel Kiper's.

However, after speaking with scouts at the East-West Shrine Game who have Jones in their territory, they say they expect Jones to slide down and fall out of the top five next April.

The scouts said there are a few reasons that could add up to Jones falling into the 6-10 range. First of all, the scouts said that Jones is not a good workout guy. They don't believe that he is going to test well or stand out in the Combine or pre-draft workouts. Area scouts who cover Georgia say that Jones is not a weight-room guy. He doesn't put a lot of work in during the week, but would show up on Saturday and dominate naturally.

They said that Jones is a good guy and a good teammate, but just isn't a tireless worker. As one scout said, "Don't get me wrong, if you watch his tapes you'll say he is worth being the No. 1 rated player and going in the top five of the draft. You can watch him on Saturdays and see that this guy is animal. He's clearly the best player on the field, but not a guy that you'll be in love with during the week. Add in the medical concern and with the testing, and I think he's going to slide some on Draft Day."

Jones' medical condition is a spinal stenosis that happened as a freshman at USC. On a routine hit against Oregon, Jones sustained the injury. A specialist told him he would be fine, but USC's doctors wouldn't clear him and told him he should retire from football. After transferring to Georgia, Jones broke out as one of the best players in college football.

As a junior, Jones had 85 tackles, 14.5 sacks, 24.5 tackles for a loss, seven forced fumbles, three passes broken up and one interception in 2012. Jones had massive performances against Florida and Missouri with consistently good outings all year. Jones led the nation in sacks and for the second straight season had the most sacks in the SEC.

In 2011, he tied for the second-most sacks in the nation, 13.5. He also had 70 tackles with 19.5 tackles for a loss and two forced fumbles.

Jones could be a classic example of teams overthinking the draft process. Over the history of the draft, good players have slid because of an unnecessary medical concerns or not working out well at the Combine. If Jones plays in the NFL like he did at Georgia, he'll reward whomever takes him on Draft Day with plenty of teams feeling regret.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

4. My Chiefs' source, who has a high success rate of delivering Kansas City's first-round picks, told me Smith is currently the favorite to go No. 1 overall, but conceded that it's still too early in the process. He said that the combination of Joeckel and Tyler Wilson is also a strong possibility.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

On Jarvis Jones falling (He has him going #17 in his latest mock):

That would be so sweet if he somehow fell to us at 34.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Sorter

That would be so sweet if he somehow fell to us at 34.

If he slips to 20 or so, I'd be on the phones trying to move up.

[htismaqe]

I'm not trading picks for Jones. Nobody knows how long he is good for.

If he slides to 34, fine take him. But don't give up picks to get him.