NFL Draft Sell me on Mike Glennon - Page 22

**RealSNR** · 12-19-2012, 01:02 PM

Right now I don't see anything about the guy that I like.

I haven't watched any more than about 2 minutes of live game footage. I've seen a bunch of highlights of his throws on youtube.

I want to like the guy. I want him to be good so people will stop bitching about how supposedly terrible this year's QB class is, but every time I watch something of his, I get turned off. He's 2nd round material at best to me that will (possibly) get taken in the top 10? Some people even have him as the top QB off the board?

That's pure insanity to me.

Tell me/show me stuff about Mike Glennon that will change my mind. I promise to withhold all preconceived notions about the guy in this thread for the purposes of trying to like him.

Based on the stuff I have watched so far, no. He's NOT better than Geno Smith, and he won't ever be. But I'm tired of shitting on him when everybody is talking him up as potentially a good pro QB.

**hometeam** · 01-19-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Wait what? You think he's Ryan Fitzpatrick?

not entirely. I just picked one of the crappier starting Qbs in the league~

BryanBusby · 01-19-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

So Smith is suppose to be like Aaron Rodgers. Wilson is suppose to be Favre. Which NFL QB best fits Glennon's skill-set...?

Derek Anderson

Ace Gunner · 01-19-2013, 08:52 PM

Mike Glennon I 6067 I 232 I QB I Senior I North Carolina State
40 Time (E): 5.05
All Star Game Appearance: Senior Bowl (tentative)

Arm Strength: Mike Glennon possesses the strongest arm of any 2013 QB. There isn’t a throw Glennon can’t make on the field. What I love most about Glennon is that despite the big arm he isn’t always looking to jam it into tight windows. Quarterbacks with big arms often look to throw into windows that aren’t there and become overconfident in their arm strength. Glennon, at times, isn’t trustworthy enough of his arm. His ability to push the ball vertically will draw serious attention come evaluation time.

Accuracy: Coming into the 2012 season, all I heard about Glennon was that he wasn’t accurate enough to be a top prospect. I didn’t see that in any tapes that I watched. He, like most young quarterbacks, tends to lock into his first option and make mistakes trying to do too much with the ball. When Glennon misses it’s usually his feet that are the culprit. He has heavy feet and gets stiff on his front leg. The one consistent spot that Glennon seemed to miss on was balls delivered 15+ outside the hash. While there seems to be a lot of negatives, I’m nitpicking. Bottom line is that when Glennon is in a rhythm, he’s an accurate passer that can light up a defense with his arm talent.

Throwing Mechanics: As discussed, Glennon’s mechanical issues can be attributed to his footwork. He will get stiff on the front leg and throw flat footed. He’s got an over the top delivery that’s picture perfect as he stands at almost 6’7”. From the waist up it’s fun to watch the ball pop off Glennon’s hand. His release is longer than you would like but it comes out with so much velocity that it makes up for the long release.

Mobility/Athleticism: Glennon isn’t going to be many in a foot race but he has the ability to slide and climb the pocket to avoid rushers. I was extremely impressed with Glennon’s ability to throw on roll outs and boot action. For a guy that doesn’t appear to be a great athlete he understands the value of moving the pocket at times.

Pocket Presence: Despite having poor feet, Glennon has a pretty good feel for the pocket and rushers. He does a nice job of seeing the blitz and getting the ball out quickly to his target. There’s plenty of guys excelling in the league with poor feet and Glennon has some of the same attributes. Tom Brady avoids taking shots by getting the ball out quick and is able to slide to avoid pass rushers. Glennon, clearly, isn’t Tom Brady but he shows a similar sense of pressure and ability to get the ball out his hand quickly. My favorite aspect of Glennon’s game is his ability to throw with trash at his feet. Glennon seemed to excel under pressure situations when forced to improvise and check the ball down.

Intangibles/Character: Mike Glennon took over the reins from Russell Wilson and hasn’t looked back since. He’s an intelligent quarterback that has mastered a pro-style offense at N.C. State. Glennon avoids mistakes with his ability to see the defense pre-snap and understanding where the ball needs to go. He didn’t have the best weapons or offensive line at N.C. State and excelled despite that. Glennon took a lot of shots and continued to get back up this season which will earn the respect of an NFL locker room. He appears poised on and off the field which will bode well for his future as an NFL QB.

Size: Glennon is about as physical a presence as they come at the quarterback position. At near 6’7” and 232 pounds he has the prototype body for an NFL QB.

Overall: Mike Glennon will be heavily scrutinized until April’s draft. There’s a ton to like with this guy and he can’t count me as a fan of his game. I think there will be a bunch of varied grades on this guy ranging from 1st to 3rd round. I fall into the first round category. He has NFL tools and is more ready to play than many give him credit for. He played in an NFL system taking snaps under center and in the gun. The pre-draft process will be an important one for Glennon and he’s best served to throw at every opportunity. For me, Glennon possesses the tools to be a capable starter in the NFL and first round pick.

Click here to check out my film study on Glennon done earlier in the college football season.

http://nflsfuture.com/2012/12/15/mik...outing-report/

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He reminds me of Phil Simms, except a lanky player. Kind of good, but seems to have lapses of not so good. He has a good sense of the pocket, like this guy said, but I kind of thought Freeman would become a decent QB at the NFL level and he hasn't, really. So, maybe he's a little like Josh Freeman and Phil Simms. He can make throws, seems like a cool cucumber, but doesn't always raise his level to get the win.

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-19-2013, 09:05 PM

Not bad...

Setsuna · 01-19-2013, 09:52 PM

Glennon is a poor man's Matt Ryan. Bray's ceiling is Matt Stafford with Drew Brees' decision making.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-20-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

This fanbase has a sick fascination with finding the best bargain instead of the best player. Why use the #1 on a QB when a Drew Brees in the 2nd round happens once a decade, or a Russel Wilson (if he doesn't fall off) or a Joe Montana in the 3rd. We're due our Tom Brady, damn it. It happens all the time to other franchises (of course it doesn't...) so if we just keep trying with these projects, eventually we'll hit our home run. That's why they always fall in love with guys like Croyle or Stanzi. Maybe that's finally our guy! Gotta keep drafting those offensive linemen, so we can keep on running the ball, and we'll have great protection when our middle round quarterback savior finally arrives, or when we finally land that next great costoff backup from whatever flavor of the month team we're emulating. God forbid we use the highest pick we may ever have on the most important position. Find a bargain instead. Or even better trade it for some value!

I remember people saying we couldn't select Ryan at our pick if available cause we had to give Croyle a chance

We have the number one pick and can have any QB we want, but they would rather wait and take the 4th or 5th ranked guy. It's disturbing and disgusts me.

Saccopoo · 01-20-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

Bray's ceiling is Matt Stafford with Drew Brees' decision making.

**Dave Lane** · 01-20-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Not enough neck.

**Rausch** · 01-20-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

So Smith is suppose to be like Aaron Rodgers. Wilson is suppose to be Favre.

No and no.

What caged monkey is throwing that $3it up on the wall?...

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-20-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

No and no.

What caged monkey is throwing that $3it up on the wall?...

What are YOUR comparisons?

Because I am certain everyone will agree with those...

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-22-2013, 01:31 PM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...1-91b57c59c900

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-22-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...1-91b57c59c900

Oh. My. God.

Dat neck!

Where is the Tyler Wilson one...?

**RealSNR** · 01-22-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...1-91b57c59c900

"I'm not brilliant by any means."

Guy sounds pretty dumb in interview, but maybe it's just the vacant expression that's always on his face. You look in his eyes and you don't see a divine spark or anything. He doesn't appear to be thinking about anything ever.

htismaqe · 01-22-2013, 01:52 PM

Mike Glennon has bust written all over him.

Rambozo · 01-22-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

Glennon is a poor man's Matt Ryan. Bray's ceiling is Matt Stafford with Drew Brees' decision making.

Those are some big comparisons for Bray imo.

12-19-2012, 01:02 PM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $515208	Sell me on Mike Glennon Right now I don't see anything about the guy that I like. I haven't watched any more than about 2 minutes of live game footage. I've seen a bunch of highlights of his throws on youtube. I want to like the guy. I want him to be good so people will stop bitching about how supposedly terrible this year's QB class is, but every time I watch something of his, I get turned off. He's 2nd round material at best to me that will (possibly) get taken in the top 10? Some people even have him as the top QB off the board? That's pure insanity to me. Tell me/show me stuff about Mike Glennon that will change my mind. I promise to withhold all preconceived notions about the guy in this thread for the purposes of trying to like him. Based on the stuff I have watched so far, no. He's NOT better than Geno Smith, and he won't ever be. But I'm tired of shitting on him when everybody is talking him up as potentially a good pro QB.
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Ace Gunner First Overall Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: kcmo Casino cash: $10007271	Mike Glennon I 6067 I 232 I QB I Senior I North Carolina State 40 Time (E): 5.05 All Star Game Appearance: Senior Bowl (tentative) Arm Strength: Mike Glennon possesses the strongest arm of any 2013 QB. There isn’t a throw Glennon can’t make on the field. What I love most about Glennon is that despite the big arm he isn’t always looking to jam it into tight windows. Quarterbacks with big arms often look to throw into windows that aren’t there and become overconfident in their arm strength. Glennon, at times, isn’t trustworthy enough of his arm. His ability to push the ball vertically will draw serious attention come evaluation time. Accuracy: Coming into the 2012 season, all I heard about Glennon was that he wasn’t accurate enough to be a top prospect. I didn’t see that in any tapes that I watched. He, like most young quarterbacks, tends to lock into his first option and make mistakes trying to do too much with the ball. When Glennon misses it’s usually his feet that are the culprit. He has heavy feet and gets stiff on his front leg. The one consistent spot that Glennon seemed to miss on was balls delivered 15+ outside the hash. While there seems to be a lot of negatives, I’m nitpicking. Bottom line is that when Glennon is in a rhythm, he’s an accurate passer that can light up a defense with his arm talent. Throwing Mechanics: As discussed, Glennon’s mechanical issues can be attributed to his footwork. He will get stiff on the front leg and throw flat footed. He’s got an over the top delivery that’s picture perfect as he stands at almost 6’7”. From the waist up it’s fun to watch the ball pop off Glennon’s hand. His release is longer than you would like but it comes out with so much velocity that it makes up for the long release. Mobility/Athleticism: Glennon isn’t going to be many in a foot race but he has the ability to slide and climb the pocket to avoid rushers. I was extremely impressed with Glennon’s ability to throw on roll outs and boot action. For a guy that doesn’t appear to be a great athlete he understands the value of moving the pocket at times. Pocket Presence: Despite having poor feet, Glennon has a pretty good feel for the pocket and rushers. He does a nice job of seeing the blitz and getting the ball out quickly to his target. There’s plenty of guys excelling in the league with poor feet and Glennon has some of the same attributes. Tom Brady avoids taking shots by getting the ball out quick and is able to slide to avoid pass rushers. Glennon, clearly, isn’t Tom Brady but he shows a similar sense of pressure and ability to get the ball out his hand quickly. My favorite aspect of Glennon’s game is his ability to throw with trash at his feet. Glennon seemed to excel under pressure situations when forced to improvise and check the ball down. Intangibles/Character: Mike Glennon took over the reins from Russell Wilson and hasn’t looked back since. He’s an intelligent quarterback that has mastered a pro-style offense at N.C. State. Glennon avoids mistakes with his ability to see the defense pre-snap and understanding where the ball needs to go. He didn’t have the best weapons or offensive line at N.C. State and excelled despite that. Glennon took a lot of shots and continued to get back up this season which will earn the respect of an NFL locker room. He appears poised on and off the field which will bode well for his future as an NFL QB. Size: Glennon is about as physical a presence as they come at the quarterback position. At near 6’7” and 232 pounds he has the prototype body for an NFL QB. Overall: Mike Glennon will be heavily scrutinized until April’s draft. There’s a ton to like with this guy and he can’t count me as a fan of his game. I think there will be a bunch of varied grades on this guy ranging from 1st to 3rd round. I fall into the first round category. He has NFL tools and is more ready to play than many give him credit for. He played in an NFL system taking snaps under center and in the gun. The pre-draft process will be an important one for Glennon and he’s best served to throw at every opportunity. For me, Glennon possesses the tools to be a capable starter in the NFL and first round pick. Click here to check out my film study on Glennon done earlier in the college football season. http://nflsfuture.com/2012/12/15/mik...outing-report/ _______________________________________________ He reminds me of Phil Simms, except a lanky player. Kind of good, but seems to have lapses of not so good. He has a good sense of the pocket, like this guy said, but I kind of thought Freeman would become a decent QB at the NFL level and he hasn't, really. So, maybe he's a little like Josh Freeman and Phil Simms. He can make throws, seems like a cool cucumber, but doesn't always raise his level to get the win. __________________ The Greatest
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