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[Hammock Parties]

I don't think his knee is healthy whatsoever.

I also think he had the worst knee injury of the three guys, and he injured it twice. Once on the initial hit, and again when he was forced back into the game.

Moeaki and Charles have looked much much better the last month. You can tell they're getting those knees almost back to 100 percent now. I think Berry will need the offseason to get back to where he was.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I don't think his knee is healthy whatsoever.

I also think he had the worst knee injury of the three guys, and he injured it twice. Once on the initial hit, and again when he was forced back into the game.

Moeaki and Charles have looked much much better the last month. You can tell they're getting those knees almost back to 100 percent now. I think Berry will need the offseason to get back to where he was.

He has struggled in pass protection from Day 1 in the NFL. During his rookie season he was routinely abused by almost every TE we played against.

It hasn't changed.

I like the guy and he's got a great attitude (from what I can see), but it's beginning to look like a bust level pick at this point - especially considering the level of production of other safetys taken in that same draft.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

He has struggled in pass protection from Day 1 in the NFL. During his rookie season he was routinely abused by almost every TE we played against.

It hasn't changed.

I like the guy and he's got a great attitude (from what I can see), but it's beginning to look like a bust level pick at this point - especially considering the level of production of other safetys taken in that same draft.

The problem stems from Eric being assigned to play man-coverage in a LB spot in nearly/if not all of our passing downs. If he was allowed to get more looks as a safety in a 2 deep or even a lurk/robber look, I feel you'd see better results.

He doesn't need to be stuck playing man coverage. He simply isn't that good at it to be doing it on nearly 2/3 snaps per series.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Sorter

The problem stems from Eric being assigned to play man-coverage in a LB spot in nearly/if not all of our passing downs. If he was allowed to get more looks as a safety in a 2 deep or even a lurk/robber look, I feel you'd see better results.

He doesn't need to be stuck playing man coverage. He simply isn't that good at it to be doing it on nearly 2/3 snaps per series.

He was a top five pick. As a safety.

He should be destroying guys in man coverage, especially with his athletic ability.

Right now, it looks like his college numbers were the effect of playing rogue in Monte Kiffin's Cover 2 versus his actual football instincts/capabilities.

He should have been Paul Krause. Right now, he's a really, really small Mike linebacker. That's a busted pick in my book and another shit bag Pioli first round pick.

He's the defensive equivilent of Baldwin. Supreme athletic gifts and just can't play the game (at least to the level his draft pick should dictate).

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

He's the defensive equivilent of Baldwin. Supreme athletic gifts and just can't play the game (at least to the level his draft pick should dictate).

That's not fair. Go back and watch the Ravens playoff game. Berry was absolutely awesome in coverage that day.

The guy's knee isn't right.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

That's not fair. Go back and watch the Ravens playoff game. Berry was absolutely awesome in coverage that day.

The guy's knee isn't right.

He definitely needs another year for evaluation.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Sorter

He definitely needs another year for evaluation.

ACL's are still generally a 2 year injury. You get back on the field in anywhere from 6-12 months, but it takes longer to really get your legs all the way back under you.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

He was a top five pick. As a safety.

He should be destroying guys in man coverage, especially with his athletic ability.

Right now, it looks like his college numbers were the effect of playing rogue in Monte Kiffin's Cover 2 versus his actual football instincts/capabilities.

He should have been Paul Krause. Right now, he's a really, really small Mike linebacker. That's a busted pick in my book and another shit bag Pioli first round pick.

He's the defensive equivilent of Baldwin. Supreme athletic gifts and just can't play the game (at least to the level his draft pick should dictate).

I definitely think he needs one more year due to the ACL injury. If he still can't perform, then he's a bust IMO. I'd still like to see us upgrade the position with 2 new safety additions (unless Hartman shows he can be productive).

[RunKC]

This safety class is stacked with very good safety talent. Draft one in the 2nd or 3rd round tell Kendrick Lewis to sit the bench.

My favorites are Lester and the two Georgia Safeties. Preferably Rambo, because he's a hard hitter and his name is Baccari mother****ing RAMBO.