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Old 12-04-2012, 04:07 PM   #1
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What is it with that University and conservative football
...and basketball, and hockey.

If you asked someone in Madison what year it is, I wonder what the answer would be..
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:30 PM   #2
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By the way, it's "Bret". With one T.

I liked Bielema for years when expectations for Wisconsin football were low, and the only thing that mattered was producing a great offensive line and maybe upsetting Penn State or a school like that. Also beating the living snot out of Minnesota.

Since their recent successes, Bielema has shown he's not what the team needs to compete. They need a coach who isn't so conservative and one who can actually recruit talented defensive players. No, JJ Watt doesn't count. He came into Wisconsin's program as a goddamn reserve TE/OG. They lucked into him.

If he goes there, Bielema will make Arkansas very competitive. He's a hell of an offensive line coach, and I've never seen a Wisconsin team that can't run the ball well. However, Arkansas's recent history of star QB recruits could dry up. I have no clue what it is, but the guy has been here for years and can't get anybody decent to play for him when he's not falling ass over tea kettle into Russell Wilson. Scott Tolzien is his biggest success at QB since coming here, which is a bit of a problem to me. Even Minnesota has had better QBs than that. Hell, Iowa too.

I'm just kind of meh on him. I know we'll never do any better than the occasional Rose Bowl with him as coach, but I'm kind of fine with that. I don't think Wisconsin is a school capable of finding the next great college head coach who will lead the program to greatness.

Arkansas treats football as a far more serious thing than Wisconsin does, though. So who knows. He might be just what you guys need. It could be a good fit. At the very worst, you'll field a bunch of teams whose only skill is running the ball. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though, especially in the SEC.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:33 PM   #3
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By the way, it's "Bret". With one T.

I liked Bielema for years when expectations for Wisconsin football were low, and the only thing that mattered was producing a great offensive line and maybe upsetting Penn State or a school like that. Also beating the living snot out of Minnesota.

Since their recent successes, Bielema has shown he's not what the team needs to compete. They need a coach who isn't so conservative and one who can actually recruit talented defensive players. No, JJ Watt doesn't count. He came into Wisconsin's program as a goddamn reserve TE/OG. They lucked into him.

If he goes there, Bielema will make Arkansas very competitive. He's a hell of an offensive line coach, and I've never seen a Wisconsin team that can't run the ball well. However, Arkansas's recent history of star QB recruits could dry up. I have no clue what it is, but the guy has been here for years and can't get anybody decent to play for him when he's not falling ass over tea kettle into Russell Wilson. Scott Tolzien is his biggest success at QB since coming here, which is a bit of a problem to me. Even Minnesota has had better QBs than that. Hell, Iowa too.

I'm just kind of meh on him. I know we'll never do any better than the occasional Rose Bowl with him as coach, but I'm kind of fine with that. I don't think Wisconsin is a school capable of finding the next great college head coach who will lead the program to greatness.

Arkansas treats football as a far more serious thing than Wisconsin does, though. So who knows. He might be just what you guys need. It could be a good fit. At the very worst, you'll field a bunch of teams whose only skill is running the ball. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though, especially in the SEC.
It's just a really unsexy hire after the names that were getting thrown around. And yeah, we've become accustomed to high powered offenses around here, so I'm not sure how returning to a drab run-based offense is going to sit with the fan base.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:35 PM   #4
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It's just a really unsexy hire after the names that were getting thrown around. And yeah, we've become accustomed to high powered offenses around here, so I'm not sure how returning to a drab run-based offense is going to sit with the fan base.
Wisconsin rarely has to play an elite defensive team like Alabama, LSU, or any others. When they do, the game slows WAAAY down.

Again, though, that may be a good thing for Arkansas. Not what they're used to, but a welcome change nonetheless.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:31 PM   #5
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All the reports I see are saying this is a sure thing now. He's going. End of story.

Dunno if any of them are reputable, but there you have it.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:34 PM   #7
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:39 PM   #8
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Arkansas couldn't do any better than that? Boring football coming soon to Fayetteville.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:41 PM   #9
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Arkansas couldn't do any better than that? Boring football coming soon to Fayetteville.
It looks like they've decided if they can't beat Alabama, they're going to join them...
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Arkansas couldn't do any better than that? Boring football coming soon to Fayetteville.
Yeah. This is going to really hurt Jeff Long. He already had a large group of haters due to the Petrino situation (they still say we should have found a way to keep Bobby), then made even more enemies with the way this season played out. I'm afraid this hire is going to really hurt him. People were thinking Gundy, Peterson, and Patterson were likely. I don't think this hire has the same appeal.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:43 PM   #11
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Yeah. This is going to really hurt Jeff Long. He already had a large group of haters due to the Petrino situation (they still say we should have found a way to keep Bobby), then made even more enemies with the way this season played out. I'm afraid this hire is going to really hurt him. People were thinking Gundy, Peterson, and Patterson were likely. I don't think this hire has the same appeal.
FWIW, Gary Patterson cut his teeth in the same "school" as Bielema did. He's obviously changed his offensive philosophy since coming to TCU but who knows how long that lasts now that he's coaching in a BCS conference.
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Yeah. This is going to really hurt Jeff Long. He already had a large group of haters due to the Petrino situation (they still say we should have found a way to keep Bobby), then made even more enemies with the way this season played out. I'm afraid this hire is going to really hurt him. People were thinking Gundy, Peterson, and Patterson were likely. I don't think this hire has the same appeal.
Yeah hiring a guy who's won the B1G the last 3 seasons is an awful hire. The Arkansas fan base is a bunch of cry baby bitches.
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Yeah hiring a guy who's won the B1G the last 3 seasons is an awful hire. The Arkansas fan base is a bunch of cry baby bitches.
Curious how many people want Pelini fired?
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Every one of them, minus the ones that call in to sports radio wanting to draft a lineman and keep Brady as the franchise guy next year.
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Curious how many people want Pelini fired?
I don't think he should be fired the guy has won 9 or more every year. If he had more experienced coordinators instead of hiring his friends from Ohio he would have experienced more success.

Bitching about a coach who's won his conference the last 3 years because he doesn't run the spread is absurd.
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