John Elway is turning out to be a pretty darn good GM

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by listopencil

And yeah, you guys look like a bunch of whiny pussies dogging on Elway when your team sucks.

Suck or not, I will "dog on" Elway for the rest of my life.

**** that horse-faced donkey puncher.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Suck or not, I will "dog on" Elway for the rest of my life.

**** that horse-faced donkey puncher.

Fair enough.

[RunKC]

We'll find out just how good Elway is when Manning hangs it up. He's basically doing the exact same thing King Carl did when he got here.

Except King Carl got a better coach.

I'll say this: I'm not at all impressed with Denver's draft picks outside of Von Miller and Derek Wolfe. Hitting on 1 draft pick a year isn't impressive.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We'll find out just how good Elway is when Manning hangs it up. He's basically doing the exact same thing King Carl did when he got here.

Except King Carl got a better coach.

I'll say this: I'm not at all impressed with Denver's draft picks outside of Von Miller and Derek Wolfe. Hitting on 1 draft pick a year isn't impressive.

Not a good way to look at it. Elway SHOULD be measured by being able to land Manning in Denver. You can't just throw that out. He has done a great job in Denver thus far. Just remember, Denver came in last the year we won the division. That team was in shambles. Now - they're about to repeat as AFC West Champs. Someone is doing something right.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by TEX

Not a good way to look at it. Elway SHOULD be measured by being able to land Manning in Denver. You can't just throw that out. He has done a great job in Denver thus far. Just remember, Denver came in last the year we won the division. That team was in shambles. Now - they're about to repeat as AFC West Champs. Someone is doing something right.

Ha I can't wait until the Broncos get destroyed by the Patriots again.

I doubt Denver will win a SB with Manning. Houston and New England will own the AFC for the next 3 years.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Ha I can't wait until the Broncos get destroyed by the Patriots again.

I doubt Denver will win a SB with Manning. Houston and New England will own the AFC for the next 3 years.

Still that's better than the Chiefs and the Chiefs had a head start on the rebuilding thing...Anyway here's how I look at Denver - they're kinda like this guy that you fight in a bar fight and get the best of - but you know that he's gonna fight you again. They're going to be a factor in the playoffs - regardless if they face Houston or New England again.

This year was not in the plans for them to win a SB - that part of the plan comes next. If you have the HOF QB - anything is possible.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Ha I can't wait until the Broncos get destroyed by the Patriots again.

I doubt Denver will win a SB with Manning. Houston and New England will own the AFC for the next 3 years.

Pats own this Denver team. Games have been a joke between them lately.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I'll say this: I'm not at all impressed with Denver's draft picks outside of Von Miller and Derek Wolfe. Hitting on 1 draft pick a year isn't impressive.

Yeah, drafting four impact starters and a group of quality back ups in two years is horrible. Especially doing this while improving from 4-14, to 8-8 division champs and a playoff win, to 6-3 looking at maybe locking up the division again. Yup. So unimpressive.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Yeah, drafting four impact starters and a group of quality back ups in two years is horrible. Especially doing this while improving from 4-14, to 8-8 division champs and a playoff win, to 6-3 looking at maybe locking up the division again. Yup. So unimpressive.

Impact starters? Please. Rahim Moore is average at best. I've see that guy miss tackle after tackle. The CB's are the one's playing well, not him.

And Orlando Franklin is looking great because Manning gets the ball out really fast. Manning is hiding his flaws, but yet they are still being exposed, like here.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantas...sack-6-yd-loss

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Impact starters? Please. Rahim Moore is average at best. I've see that guy miss tackle after tackle. The CB's are the one's playing well, not him.

And Orlando Franklin is looking great because Manning gets the ball out really fast. Manning is hiding his flaws, but yet they are still being exposed, like here.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantas...sack-6-yd-loss

LOl, you're reaching badly. Rahim Moore had a rough rookie year and is now doing a a very good job as one of our starting Safeties. Franklin has been great in run blocking and good at pass pro. The Broncos are tied with Houston for fewest sacks allowed, and lead the league in sacks allowed per pass attempt. Derek Wolfe is a beast inside. The other D-linemen have been signing his praises for doing the dirty work. You can cherry pick the few bad plays all you want. Your bullshit just doesn't fly. I actually watch them play. Like I said earlier, enjoy your sour grapes.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by listopencil

LOl, you're reaching badly. Rahim Moore had a rough rookie year and is now doing a a very good job as one of our starting Safeties. Franklin has been great in run blocking and good at pass pro. The Broncos are tied with Houston for fewest sacks allowed, and lead the league in sacks allowed per pass attempt. Derek Wolfe is a beast inside. The other D-linemen have been signing his praises for doing the dirty work. You can cherry pick the few bad plays all you want. Your bullshit just doesn't fly. I actually watch them play. Like I said earlier, enjoy your sour grapes.

I said Wolfe was a good pick.

Manning makes any OL look better then they really are. His OL's in Indy were average at best but yet he made them look great.

Enjoy Manning while you can because when he's done, your on Assweilers terms.