Daboll installing the 2010 Browns Offense?

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by Fritz88

Hes got heart.
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i agree he has Heart but no Arm, no Accuracy and cant read a defense wort a ****.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

and that's the problem right there.^

yep. most of the time, but there are 9 others that slack too.

it is amazing the chiefs have been running the parcells/belichick system and don't do shit with it. that is shit players, the offense is well proven.

[TinyEvel]

Originally Posted by Fritz88

We have the personnel for it. I think we will get a top 5 pick.
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FYP

[Dante84]

I'd love some quality analysis, and I know there are some nerds on here who would love to provide it.

Design-wise, is it a quality scheme?

Does anyone here know enough about the '10 Browns offense to give us a run down of its design? (i/e: run to pass ratio, types of runs, types of passes, placement of passes). How were the majority of their touchdowns scored? What types of plays got the most first downs? What types of plays produced the largest gains? On average, what type of play did they do on 1st, 2nd, 3rd downs? How often did they go for it on 4th?

What will each position's role be, and how important is it in this scheme?

Obviously stats from that season won't really be indicative of how we will perform, considering the talent levels are vastly different. But it would be neat to see some analysis so we can forecast how our offense will look, and who will perform and how.

Oh, and Cassel sucks.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by Dante84

I'd love some quality analysis, and I know there are some nerds on here who would love to provide it.

Design-wise, is it a quality scheme?

Does anyone here know enough about the '10 Browns offense to give us a run down of its design? (i/e: run to pass ratio, types of runs, types of passes, placement of passes). How were the majority of their touchdowns scored? What types of plays got the most first downs? What types of plays produced the largest gains? On average, what type of play did they do on 1st, 2nd, 3rd downs? How often did they go for it on 4th?

What will each position's role be, and how important is it in this scheme?

Obviously stats from that season won't really be indicative of how we will perform, considering the talent levels are vastly different. But it would be neat to see some analysis so we can forecast how our offense will look, and who will perform and how.

Oh, and Cassel sucks.

Guys with access to PFF or whatever might come in handy for this. I know its a tall task. For your troubles, you will be repped and I will gift you my casino cash.

[T-post Tom]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Guys with access to PFF or whatever might come in handy for this. I know its a tall task. For your troubles, you will be repped and I will gift you my casino cash.

I will give you all the analysis you need for one Aussie trollop and a cheap hotel room.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Dante84

I'd love some quality analysis, and I know there are some nerds on here who would love to provide it.

Design-wise, is it a quality scheme?

Does anyone here know enough about the '10 Browns offense to give us a run down of its design? (i/e: run to pass ratio, types of runs, types of passes, placement of passes). How were the majority of their touchdowns scored? What types of plays got the most first downs? What types of plays produced the largest gains? On average, what type of play did they do on 1st, 2nd, 3rd downs? How often did they go for it on 4th?

What will each position's role be, and how important is it in this scheme?

Obviously stats from that season won't really be indicative of how we will perform, considering the talent levels are vastly different. But it would be neat to see some analysis so we can forecast how our offense will look, and who will perform and how.

Oh, and Cassel sucks.

It's from an article....and it only mentions the first 4 games of the season.....but FWIW:

It took the Browns a while to figure out who they are. They opened the season against Tampa Bay with a 38 to 23 pass-run ratio despite never trailing until less than seven minutes left in the game. Even when Seneca Wallace replaced the injured Delhomme in Game 2 against Kansas City, the Browns still passed more (31 times) than they ran (26). And they led again until the middle of the fourth quarter.

Those were against defenses ranked 32nd and 31st against the run the year before.

The tide turned in Baltimore and continued last week against Cincinnati. In those two closely fought games, the Browns ran 54 percent of the time. Hillis accounted for approximately 50 percent of the plays with 49 carries and nine receptions.

Against the Bengals, Hillis was on the field for 63 of the team's 66 offensive snaps. He knocked two players who tried to tackle him out of the game -- safety Roy Williams and cornerback Johnathan Joseph -- and brought the rest of the defense to submission with a 24-yard run on his 27th and last carry.

[nychief]

well he is installing his offense - and he did work for cleveland in 2010 - is this news? Perhaps he is installing the 2004 Patriots offense? Or the 2011 dolphins offense.. and so on and so on... He is installing his offense. He was hired to do so.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by nychief

well he is installing his offense - and he did work for cleveland in 2010 - is this news? Perhaps he is installing the 2004 Patriots offense? Or the 2011 dolphins offense.. and so on and so on... He is installing his offense. He was hired to do so.

Installing his own offense is a little different than a player saying he knows the playbook because it is the same one from 2 years ago, no?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Installing his own offense is a little different than a player saying he knows the playbook because it is the same one from 2 years ago, no?

What does this even mean?

[nychief]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Installing his own offense is a little different than a player saying he knows the playbook because it is the same one from 2 years ago, no?

How? They are in the OTAs - so they are learning basic vanilla schemes of this offense- makes sense they would be the same. I mean the guy isn't reinventing the wheel on May 22nd...

I find the hand wringing silly...

[stonedstooge]

Originally Posted by Dante84

I'd love some quality analysis, and I know there are some nerds on here who would love to provide it.

Design-wise, is it a quality scheme?

Does anyone here know enough about the '10 Browns offense to give us a run down of its design? (i/e: run to pass ratio, types of runs, types of passes, placement of passes). How were the majority of their touchdowns scored? What types of plays got the most first downs? What types of plays produced the largest gains? On average, what type of play did they do on 1st, 2nd, 3rd downs? How often did they go for it on 4th?

What will each position's role be, and how important is it in this scheme?

Obviously stats from that season won't really be indicative of how we will perform, considering the talent levels are vastly different. But it would be neat to see some analysis so we can forecast how our offense will look, and who will perform and how.

Oh, and Cassel sucks.

Here you go. "FUMBLE ON THE PLAY!!!"

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Dante84

I'd love some quality analysis, and I know there are some nerds on here who would love to provide it.

I could be wrong (likely), but i thought it was supposed to be a west coast style offense, lots of short passes. I remember hearing that when they were first talking about starting Colt McCoy in his rookie year.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by sedated

I could be wrong (likely), but i thought it was supposed to be a west coast style offense, lots of short passes. I remember hearing that when they were first talking about starting Colt McCoy in his rookie year.

IIRC McCoy wasn't supposed to go near the field his first year. It was injuries to the #1 and #2 that forced him into the lineup.

[themanwithnoname]

Originally Posted by sedated

I could be wrong (likely), but i thought it was supposed to be a west coast style offense, lots of short passes. I remember hearing that when they were first talking about starting Colt McCoy in his rookie year.

I think that plays to Cassel's (very limited) strengths. In fact, if they do a good job calling plays and picking the player for Cassel to go to, I think they could do a lot better as it should get the ball out of Cassel's hands and to the playmakers quicker and he shouldn't have to think much about progressions. Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that Cassel will keep up his mediocre play (and in fact, I kinda hate it as anything that helps to hide Cassel's ineptitude is just going to screw this team over as they'll be able to keep trotting him out there).

I'm still iffy on Daboll. I'm not enthused, but I can't see how it can get worse than what they trotted out last year (and plenty of times in 2010). I'm not sure if Haley is even a good OC, as I think Arizona can be explained with Kurt Warner + Boldin + Fitzgerald = success.

Actually, I am a little enthusiastic about Daboll, mainly for his rep for what he did to McCoy. Cassel has been coddled far too much. Hell, maybe Pioli will even listen to Daboll if he says Cassel just can't cut it (although I'm not expecting him to, if he didn't listen to Charlie Weis who supposedly felt that way). Or maybe we'll see an epic mutiny of the coaches against Pioli or something.