Did Football Kill Junior?

[|Zach|]

http://www.gamesover.org/retirement/...cheering_stops

Suicide Among NFL Players Is Six Times The National Average.

[mr. tegu]

I really wish I had the time to response to sone of these posts right now...lots of unfounded and generalized statements.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by petegz28

But he was talking about the depression and such that players may experience after they retire and what not.


I have to call total BS on this.

I see it, one day you have the world, next day you're fatigue every day, broke, plus; frankly & probably a little slow.

It's sad what Junior did. RIP

[BigRedChief]

Concussions can cause Lou Gehrig's disease. A very high % of football players have Lou Gehrig's disease. We have found out that concussions release a protein into the spinal fluid that causes Lou Gehrigs disease.

They think that is how Lou Gehrig got the disease. He suffered two major concussions in the space of two days and a third in a week. He kept playing.

[gblowfish]

I know some of you mentioned Jim Tyrer, a guy in the Chiefs Hall of Fame. He was the consummate tackle, protected Lenny's blind side for most of the AFL years. He played up till 1974 when he was cut by the Washington Redskins. He raised his kids in KC. In September of 1980 he came home, shot his wife dead, then killed himself, with the kids in the house. It was shocking, and for sure it kept Tyrer out of the Pro Football HOF. He was despondent over his businesses failing and was in money trouble. He was very good friends with Dawson, Ed Budde, Arbanas EJ Holub, Dave Hill, and a bunch of defensive guys like Lynch and Lanier. It was extremely shocking back then, and it wasn't talked about much because it was such a tragic thing.

Tyrer was only 41. You can read the newspaper story from when the murder/suicide went down here:
http://tinyurl.com/6obkfh9

[Reerun_KC]

NFL like most normal people see players as expendable resources. They are paid nicely for their ability to play a game at that level. Once the player is done, HE should have enough money to take care of himself and medical bills for the rest of his life.

Honestly I dont feel sorry for JR or any other NFL millionare that has the ability to make that kind of money and not plan for the future.

Why should the NFL and teams pay these guys millions then babysit their stupidity and failure of financial planning when their days are over?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

NFL like most normal people see players as expendable resources. They are paid nicely for their ability to play a game at that level. Once the player is done, HE should have enough money to take care of himself and medical bills for the rest of his life.

Honestly I dont feel sorry for JR or any other NFL millionare that has the ability to make that kind of money and not plan for the future.

Why should the NFL and teams pay these guys millions then babysit their stupidity and failure of financial planning when their days are over?

They are adults and made their choices. I don't have a moral objection to watching others take chances with their lives and bodies that I wouldn't take myself.

But, their is a line that society doesn't cross. Even if everyone involved is a adult volunteer. The gladiator refrence has been brought up a lot today. There would be a huge line of people wanting to be Gladiators if we allowed that type of sport to exist.

I saw Jim Mcmahon from the Bears on tv recently. He can't reemember how to get home from the grocery store. We don;t need to see that happen to all of our former players.

[notorious]

It's just a matter of time before someone dies on the field.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by notorious

It's just a matter of time before someone dies on the field.

And? Remove the body, insert next player and move on.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by notorious

It's just a matter of time before someone dies on the field.

True but when you think about it, if you were going to die doing something would you not want it to be doing something you love?

I mean we all want to die old and gray with our family around us. But if I were a pro-player I would much rather die on the field doing what I loved to do than say getting killed by a drunk driver. I chose to be on that field knowing the risks but it's what I love to do.

Racecar drivers have died during races yet the tracks are still open and the cars going faster than ever.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by petegz28

True but when you think about it, if you were going to die doing something would you not want it to be doing something you love?

I mean we all want to die old and gray with our family around us. But if I were a pro-player I would much rather die on the field doing what I loved to do than say getting killed by a drunk driver. I chose to be on that field knowing the risks but it's what I love to do.

Racecar drivers have died during races yet the tracks are still open and the cars going faster than ever.

No. I strongly desire to die in my sleep.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by listopencil

No. I strongly desire to die in my sleep.

I thought I implied the "ideal death" aside. Everyone wants to die in their sleep. But if that's not the case then why not do it while doing something you love? Look at pilots for instance. They love to fly and know they are risking their lives every time they go up in the air. Skydivers as well.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I thought I implied the "ideal death" aside. Everyone wants to die in their sleep. But if that's not the case then why not do it while doing something you love? Look at pilots for instance. They love to fly and know they are risking their lives every time they go up in the air. Skydivers as well.

Well in that case I want to die in bed...

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by notorious

It's just a matter of time before someone dies on the field.

It's already happened, just not in a live NFL game.

[petegz28]

For all the talk about how rough football is I still don't think it's as rough as hockey.