Movies and TV MACHETE!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-31-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Wasn't the trailer in Grindhouse just a fake trailer and somebody said it would make a good movie so they made it?

Probably, but I don't know for sure.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-31-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR

Probably, but I don't know for sure.

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Yes, that's exactly what it was.

No, Machete was a trailer for Grindhouse (which was financed for next to nothing).

It was a homage to the X, XX and XXX films of the 70's (complete with film distortion and flickers). It was done for little to no money (back end for everyone) and although the trailers were AWESOME, no one set out to create the trailers with an intent to make them 90 minute films.

Rob Zombie has been trying to come up with a way to make "Werewolf Women of the SS" into a feature, as has Eli Roth and "Thanksgiving".

The problem with that it's akin to making a short SNL skit into a movie: It was originally conceived in short form, so how do you make it cool and relevant in long form?

The short answer is that many have tried but few have succeeded.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-31-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, Machete was a trailer for Grindhouse (which was financed for next to nothing).

It was a homage to the X, XX and XXX films of the 70's (complete with film distortion and flickers). It was done for little to no money (back end for everyone) and although the trailers were AWESOME, no one set out to create the trailers with an intent to make them 90 minute films.

Rob Zombie has been trying to come up with a way to make WereWomen of the SS into a feature, as has Eli Roth and "Thanksgiving".

The problem with that is akin to making a short SNL skit into a movie: It was originally conceived in short form, so how do you make it cool and relevant in long form?

The short answer is that many have tried but few have succeeded.

Does Danny still head-up Hollywood AA?

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-31-2010, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR

Does Danny still head-up Hollywood AA?

Dude, I haven't seen him since 2002 but I'd assume he's still involved.

He's a good guy.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-31-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, I haven't seen him since 2002 but I'd assume he's still involved.

He's a good guy.

Right on. He was one of the best boxers in San Quinton Prison, so I hear.

Deberg_1990 · 09-01-2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, I haven't seen him since 2002 but I'd assume he's still involved.

He's a good guy.

I love that dude. Glad to see him headlining movies now.

**KcMizzou** · 08-31-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, Machete was a trailer for Grindhouse (which was financed for next to nothing).

It was a homage to the X, XX and XXX films of the 70's (complete with film distortion and flickers). It was done for little to no money (back end for everyone) and although the trailers were AWESOME, no one set out to create the trailers with an intent to make them 90 minute films.

Machete was NOT a trailer for Grindhouse. It was a fake trailer for a fake movie that came between the two actual films. I went to the theater and saw it.

It created enough buzz, that they actually made the movie.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-01-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Machete was NOT a trailer for Grindhouse. It was a fake trailer for a fake movie that came between the two actual films. I went to the theater and saw it.

It created enough buzz, that they actually made the movie.

The entire thing was a concept film to feel like the 70's. In the theaters, it was shown as one feature length film (Planet Terror & Death Proof were the features, with Thanksgiving, Machete and Were Women of the SS as "trailer" for films that didn't exist).

When the DVD was initially released, it was released in its entirety, more than 3 hours long. The premium cable channels generally have shown one film or the other (Planet Terror or Death Proof).

The entire project was a gigantic flop. It cost more than $67 million to make, yet earned only $25 million worldwide at the box office.

"Machete" was independently financed for less than $20 million, with all of the actors taking back end participation. Out of all the Grindhouse fake trailers, it has the best chance of being successful because of the backstory. The others will be far more difficult to produce.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-01-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The entire thing was a concept film to feel like the 70's. In the theaters, it was shown as one feature length film (Planet Terror & Death Proof were the features, with Thanksgiving, Machete and Were Women of the SS as "trailer" for films that didn't exist).

When the DVD was initially released, it was released in its entirety, more than 3 hours long. The premium cable channels generally have shown one film or the other (Planet Terror or Death Proof).

The entire project was a gigantic flop. It cost more than $67 million to make, yet earned only $25 million worldwide at the box office.

"Machete" was independently financed for less than $20 million, with all of the actors taking back end participation. Out of all the Grindhouse fake trailers, it has the best chance of being successful because of the backstory. The others will be far more difficult to produce.

Grindhouse sucked ass; I couldn't make it through one hour. Sadness.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-01-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR

Grindhouse sucked ass; I couldn't make it through one hour. Sadness.

I guess this is why it flopped at the box office.

Man, I loved it! Planet Terror was awesome. Death Proof was too talky of course, because it's Quintin and Quintin loves to hear himself speak. And the trailers were awesome.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-01-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I guess this is why it flopped at the box office.

Man, I loved it! Planet Terror was awesome. Death Proof was too talky of course, because it's Quintin and Quintin loves to hear himself speak. And the trailers were awesome.

I like QT because of the dialog, mostly.

KCUnited · 09-01-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Planet Terror was awesome. Death Proof was too talky of course, because it's Quintin and Quintin loves to hear himself speak. And the trailers were awesome.

My thoughts exactly.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-01-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR

Grindhouse sucked ass; I couldn't make it through one hour. Sadness.

Do you like QT movies? I loved it. To each his own, though.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-01-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Do you like QT movies? I loved it. To each his own, though.

I normally do, but Grindhouse just didn't do it for me.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-01-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The entire thing was a concept film to feel like the 70's. In the theaters, it was shown as one feature length film (Planet Terror & Death Proof were the features, with Thanksgiving, Machete and Were Women of the SS as "trailer" for films that didn't exist).

When the DVD was initially released, it was released in its entirety, more than 3 hours long. The premium cable channels generally have shown one film or the other (Planet Terror or Death Proof).

The entire project was a gigantic flop. It cost more than $67 million to make, yet earned only $25 million worldwide at the box office.

"Machete" was independently financed for less than $20 million, with all of the actors taking back end participation. Out of all the Grindhouse fake trailers, it has the best chance of being successful because of the backstory. The others will be far more difficult to produce.

Maybe I'm missing something here. I saw Grindhouse. I saw the fake trailers. KcM is stating that Machete was originally a fake trailer. I thought it was as well.