Tool

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

This is a pretty stupid comment. While your overall thesis might be true, it has nothing to do with fans thinking DC is the best. Every fandom, not just music fandoms, think their guy is the best. Hardly uncommon. It’s no different than Metallica fans who think Lars is a decent drummer or RHCP fans who think that Flea is anything other than annoying. Most of it is self aware hyperbole, and that’s okay.

There really is no denying that DC is one of the best technical hard rock/metal drummers out there and unquestionably the godfather of incorporating complex polyrhythmic technique in popular hard rock/metal, but man that is a mouthful compared to just saying the best.

FTR, it’s the “you just don’t get it” crowd that makes Tool fans the worst.

Flea is an amazing bassist and i ****ing hate RHCP

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Flea is an amazing bassist and i ****ing hate RHCP

Amazing is very strong. He’s a very good popular rock bassist, and he certainly helps define RHCP’s sound. If we move out of the popular rock genre and compare him against people that are actually schooled in music rather than failed guitarists, he’s really nothing special. All that being said, he could be the greatest bassist ever and he’d still be incredibly annoying.

My hate for the RHCP burns brighter than 10,000 suns.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

Amazing is very strong. He’s a very good popular rock bassist, and he certainly helps define RHCP’s sound. If we move out of the popular rock genre and compare him against people that are actually schooled in music rather than failed guitarists, he’s really nothing special. All that being said, he could be the greatest bassist ever and he’d still be incredibly annoying.

My hate for the RHCP burns brighter than 10,000 suns.

I hate RHCP too.

But the slap/pop style is just far too awesome, and he's really ****ing good at it. He's not my favorite, but from a technique standpoint it's far more difficult to get right than just fingering it, or playing with a pick.

I fiddle around with my bass (i have 3) when i get bored. I'm far from a musician by any means, im just a bored guy with a couple of electric basses and some practice amps. I sit in front of YouTube watching Bass Covers w/tabs as i play along to my favorite songs.

And while playing Tool's 46 & 2 sounds great to my ears, it's nowhere near as complicated as trying to (and failing horribly) at replicating some of those Flea tabs.

And while i like Fieldy's sound better, the amount of notes and technique required to replicate a Korn bass cover just isn't as complicated as a Flea RHCP cover.

If i had to pick one bassist i wish i could emulate, it'd be Ryan Martinie.

I know Les Claypool is the default answer for Slap/Pop bass, and im certainly in awe when i watch/listen to him, im just not big into Primus or his sound.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I hate RHCP too.

But the slap/pop style is just far too awesome, and he's really ****ing good at it. He's not my favorite, but from a technique standpoint it's far more difficult to get right than just fingering it, or playing with a pick.

I fiddle around with my bass (i have 3) when i get bored. I'm far from a musician by any means, im just a bored guy with a couple of electric basses and some practice amps. I sit in front of YouTube watching Bass Covers w/tabs as i play along to my favorite songs.

And while playing Tool's 46 & 2 sounds great to my ears, it's nowhere near as complicated as trying to (and failing horribly) at replicating some of those Flea tabs.

And while i like Fieldy's sound better, the amount of notes and technique required to replicate a Korn bass cover just isn't as complicated as a Flea RHCP cover.

If i had to pick one bassist i wish i could emulate, it'd be Ryan Martinie.

I know Les Claypool is the default answer for Slap/Pop bass, and im certainly in awe when i watch/listen to him, im just not big into Primus or his sound.

I mean, I don’t think slap bass is really much more difficult than fingerpicking, it’s just different. I don’t think just because one plays a slap style that they are better than someone who doesn’t by default. Great players incorporate all kinds of styles. Look at a guy like John Myung who certainly wouldn’t be known as a slap player and tell me with a straight face that he isn’t a significantly more technically advanced player than Flea.

Further, I don’t think Flea brings anything new or interesting to slap bass playing anyway. It’s just that most people who listen to RHCP don’t listen to a much real funk where slap bass is more popular. Take Victor Wooten, another guy who I wouldn’t pigeonhole as a slap player, but his slap play is leagues ahead of Flea.

I think the problem is that people who are genuinely virtuoso level players on their instruments, aren’t going to be players in popular bands. The kind of music that interests a virtuoso isn’t the kind of music that interest average Joe. Take The Aristocrats for example. Incredible playing that 99% of people will never hear.