Veach and the CBs, is he clueless?

[Chief Roundup]

Marcus Peters Pros:
Created Turnovers

Marcus Peters Cons:
Refuses to tackle
Quit on team
Unsportsmanlike Penalties
Doesn't play the defense that was called
Locker room Cancer
Argues with coaches
Loves the Raiders

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Marcus Peters Pros:
Created Turnovers

Marcus Peters Cons:
Refuses to tackle
Quit on team
Unsportsmanlike Penalties
Doesn't play the defense that was called
Locker room Cancer
Argues with coaches
Loves the Raiders

We don’t know all the behind the scenes details but this post really is kinda true.

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it 1000 more times. If they felt like there was any reason they could afford to keep their perennial pro bowl corner around longer, he’d still be here. Those guys don’t get traded without good reason.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Marcus Peters Pros:
Created Turnovers

Marcus Peters Cons:
Refuses to tackle
Quit on team
Unsportsmanlike Penalties
Doesn't play the defense that was called
Locker room Cancer
Argues with coaches
Loves the Raiders

Yep, and that is what we know about. It would be surprising if there wasn't more locker room crap we don't know about. It wasn't like this crap just started with him and the Chiefs either, he dropped to the Chiefs due to issues.

But the lefties got to talk about the not kneeling part. Way down the list.

[Randallflagg]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Marcus Peters Pros:
Created Turnovers

Marcus Peters Cons:
Refuses to tackle
Quit on team
Unsportsmanlike Penalties
Doesn't play the defense that was called
Locker room Cancer
Argues with coaches
Loves the Raiders

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Marcus Peters Pros:
Created Turnovers

Marcus Peters Cons:
Refuses to tackle
Quit on team
Unsportsmanlike Penalties
Doesn't play the defense that was called
Locker room Cancer
Argues with coaches
Loves the Raiders

That one pro is going to be looking pretty good here in a few weeks.

[TEX]

When Veach signed Amerison so quickly, it was the first time I thought he wasn't all that. To me, the signing reeked of desperation. He likes to get guys cheap, that were good at one time, but "something" happened and they have questions now. Low-risk - high - reward types. I get that - so do all GM's. The problem is if you count an too many of these types for critical rolls, and they don't pan out, you get a bunch of JAG types who show you why they are who they are now - and it kills your team.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by TEX

When Veach signed Amerison so quickly, it was the first time I thought he wasn't all that. To me, the signing reeked of desperation. He likes to get guys cheap, that were good at one time, but "something" happened and they have questions now. Low-risk - high - reward types. I get that - so do all GM's. The problem is if you count an too many of these types for critical rolls, and they don't pan out, you get a bunch of JAG types who show you why they are who they are now - and it kills your team.

Amerson was signed when Peters was still on the team

I thought it was a solid signing as a "4th corner"

We were talking about having a top 5 secondary with Fuller, Peters, Nelson, and Amerson

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Best22

Amerson was signed when Peters was still on the team

I thought it was a solid signing as a "4th corner"

We were talking about having a top 5 secondary with Fuller, Peters, Nelson, and Amerson

You hit the nail on the head with your last sentence.

It wasn’t just that Peters was a really good corner for us. With him as your number 1, Fuller became your number 2. Nelson becomes your 3. Amerson becomes your 4.

Anything you get from the rookies is just a bonus.

Sliding in a high level coverage corner at 1, makes every other corner position better because they all slide down one spot.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Best22

Amerson was signed when Peters was still on the team

I thought it was a solid signing as a "4th corner"

We were talking about having a top 5 secondary with Fuller, Peters, Nelson, and Amerson

Amerson was let go by Oakland (after being let go by Washington) and KC signed him very quickly afterwards. I don't think the plan was ever for him to play with Peters. While true that he was on the team when Peters was still there, Peters was traded shortly afterwards - I believe only a few weeks after Amerson signed.

IMO, he was signed only because they knew they were letting Peters go. No way the Chiefs decided to let Marcus Peters go on a whim.

But if you're correct in that they did plan to play him with Peters, then I can see him being a 4th CB.

But all that happened way back in February - it's August and Amerison is starting and is in WAY over his head. They had to know this would be the case. Yet they went with it.

[Ming the Merciless]

The CB's might suddenly look better if we could muster a little pressure from the line

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

The CB's might suddenly look better if we could muster a little pressure from the line

It would but we would not be allowed to tackle the QB!

[kccrow]

I don't think Veach is clueless. I think he's following what his coach wants to do and what he thinks is a best plan for rebuilding the team. The pass rush was terrible last year and so was the run defense. I think Veach realized that he couldn't fix everything in one year, so he tried to bolster the front 7 with hopes they could make offenses more one dimensional against them. I'd look for him to address more of the secondary next season and I wouldn't doubt add another pass rusher.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't think Veach is clueless. I think he's following what his coach wants to do and what he thinks is a best plan for rebuilding the team. The pass rush was terrible last year and so was the run defense. I think Veach realized that he couldn't fix everything in one year, so he tried to bolster the front 7 with hopes they could make offenses more one dimensional against them. I'd look for him to address more of the secondary next season and I wouldn't doubt add another pass rusher.

Everyone should read this bc it is 100% right.

[chiefzilla1501]

Let's also not forget that Dorsey also tried the approach of signing lots of overpriced but cheap contracts with the hope that a few would outplay their contracts. We missed with guys like Vance walker. But we got some pretty good bargains in Jarvis Jenkins, vickerson, Terrance Mitchell etc.... Veach will swing or miss on these value pickups but I'm good with him taking a lot of shots.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't think Veach is clueless. I think he's following what his coach wants to do and what he thinks is a best plan for rebuilding the team. The pass rush was terrible last year and so was the run defense. I think Veach realized that he couldn't fix everything in one year, so he tried to bolster the front 7 with hopes they could make offenses more one dimensional against them. I'd look for him to address more of the secondary next season and I wouldn't doubt add another pass rusher.

Probably correct.