Other Sports Official 2018-2019 NBA Off Season Thread!!! - Page 31

Al Bundy · 08:46 PM

Will Lebron leave Cleveland? Will KD stay in Oakland? Who goes first to the sorry ass Suns? Will the Sacramento Kings do anything to not be a bottom tier organization? Drop draft stuff in here.
Draft Order.

1 Phoenix Suns
Deandre Ayton C Arizona

2 Sacramento Kings
Marvin Balgey III PF Duke

3 Atlanta Hawks
Luke Doncic PG Slovenia (Traded to Mavericks)

4 Memphis Grizzlies
Jaren Jackson JR PF Michigan State

5 Dallas Mavericks
Trae Young PG Oklahoma (Traded to Atlanta)

6 Orlando Magic
Mohamed Bamba C Texas

7 Chicago Bulls
Wendell Carter Jr. C Duke

8 Cleveland Cavaliers (via Nets)
Colin Sexton PG Alabama

9 New York Knicks
Kevin Knox SF Kentucky

10 Philadelphia 76ers (via Lakers)
Mikal Bridges SF Villanova (Traded to Suns for Zhaire Smith)

11 Charlotte Hornets
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander PG Kentucky (Traded To Clippers)

12 Los Angeles Clippers (via Pistons)
Miles Bridges SF Michigan State.(Traded to Hornets)

13 Los Angeles Clippers
Jerome Robinson SG Boston College

14 Denver Nuggets
Michael Porter Jr. SF Missouri

15 Washington Wizards
Troy Brown Jr. SF Oregon

16 Phoenix Suns (via Heat)
Zhaire Smith SF Texas Tech (Traded to Philadelphia)

17 Milwaukee Bucks
Donte DiVincenzo SG Villanova

18 San Antonio Spurs
Lonnie Walker IV SG Miami

19 Atlanta Hawks (via Timberwolves)
Kevin Huerter SG Maryland

20 Minnesota Timberwolves (via Thunder)
Josh Okogie SG Georgia Tech

21 Utah Jazz
Grayson Allen SG Duke

22 Chicago Bulls (via Pelicans)
Chandler Hutchison SG Boise State

23 Indiana Pacers
Aaron Holiday PG UCLA

24 Portland Trail Blazers
Anfernee Simons SG USA

25 Los Angeles Lakers (via Cavaliers)
Moritz Wagner PF Michigan

26 Philadelphia 76ers
Landry Shamet PG Wichita State

27 Boston Celtics
Robert Williams C Texas A&M

28 Golden State Warriors
Jacob Evans SG Cincinnati

29 Brooklyn Nets
Dzanana Musa SF Bosnia-Herzegovina

30 Atlanta Hawks (via Houston Rockets)
Omari Spellman PF Villanova.

**dirk digler** · 07-02-2018, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Oh, yeah. Union would never approve of it and the only way it would get passed is if the owners wanted to do another lockout.

I think it's the only feasible way to bring more balance to the league and you can ultimately do that through raising the cap annually and have it tied to revenue generated throughout the league, but I don't think the owners would like that either.

Point is, hard cap, IMO, is the only way to stop this shit and the only way that happens is through a lockout.

I am with you but the NBA is so hot right now it would absolutely be dumb to force any kind of lockout. Anyway the current CBA will run at least through 2022 so it will be awhile longer before this gets resolved. I think I read the other day they are going to target the 2020 season as getting rid of the 1-done so things move slow when you have to negotiate with a union.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-02-2018, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

The warriors were pretty damn good before kd..that dynasty still happens

Excellent reading comprehension.

BigCatDaddy · 07-02-2018, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Because with almost any other team, the only way to get in a position close to the Warriors, is through tanking. The Warriors were super lucky with how Green turned out relative to his pick.

Why should they be able to get away with paying an all star center well below market value and artificially depress players' wages as a result of being lucky to have Green turn out the way he did?

Since LeBron has been in the league, what he did in Miami wasn't even the first super team.

Boston was.

Bostons stars were past 30 and non were top 5 players while Miami had 2 top 5 stars.

Rams Fan · 07-02-2018, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Cousins is a grown ass man. If he wants to take less than he's worth to get a ring, wtf is wrong with that?

If mahomes turns out to be the real real and gronk wants to take a discount deal to be our TE2, will you have a problem with that?
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I have not said I have an issue with Cousins taking less.

I have said I have an issue that he's able to sign with the Warriors for less because of a soft cap.

TambaBerry · 07-02-2018, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I have not said I have an issue with Cousins taking less.

I have said I have an issue that he's able to sign with the Warriors for less because of a soft cap.

or maybe thats what he is worth right now seeing how we have no idea what he is going to do coming off that injury

**dirk digler** · 07-02-2018, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Golden State also got tremendously lucky that Curry had those ankle injuries that depressed his value. Without those, they wouldn't have been able to fit in the salaries of guys like Iguodala and later Shaun Livingston, who were absolutely vital to them winning.

Of course, all of NBA history is changed if Clay Bennett isn't a ****ing charlatan. He screwed Seattle by moving that team, then wanted to cut costs when he had Durant, Harden, and Westbrook, so he forced Presti to trade Harden, and Presti did a terrible job both extracting value in the first place and keeping around coaching mongoloid Scotty Brooks. If Bennett just bit the bullet on the tax, the Warriors dynasty probably never happens because OKC is a better team.

I remember all the talk about Curry being an injury prone bust. And I agree with you about OKC and feel sorry for their fans because they got hosed by the owners and GM. They could have had a dynasty and let it go because they were too cheap.

**SAUTO** · 07-02-2018, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

or maybe thats what he is worth right now seeing how we have no idea what he is going to do coming off that injury

Sounds like hes saying they would be against the cap and not able to sign anyone

Rams Fan · 07-02-2018, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO

Sounds like hes saying they would be against the cap and not able to sign anyone

You are correct.

**dirk digler** · 07-02-2018, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I have not said I have an issue with Cousins taking less.

I have said I have an issue that he's able to sign with the Warriors for less because of a soft cap.

From what is being reported his market was the MLE and he wasn't getting many if any offers. Don't forget Boogie is kind of a head case and maybe teams didn't want to deal with it plus alot of the cap space for teams is pretty much gone.

PAChiefsGuy · 07-02-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

The Showtime Lakers were a super team. Russel's Celtics were a super team. Jordan's Bulls were certainly a super team.

Yeah Horace Grant, Luke Longley, Bill Cartright, Ron Harper and BJ Armstrong were key starters on those Bulls superteams... Those guys were awesome!!! Oh I forgot Paxton and Kerr. Loaded from top to bottom!

**** out of here with that stupidass statement. Bulls were no superteam they just played well as a team and MJs will to win and competitiveness put them over the top. I don't remember Karl Malone joining the Bulls after they won 72-games like Durant did with the Warriors.

Russell's Celtics also played in a different era. There weren't as many teams in the league so every team was loaded. Plus it was mostly white guys playing back then. Lets keep everything in perspective here.

BigCatDaddy · 07-02-2018, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Yeah Horace Grant, Luke Longley, Bill Cartright, Ron Harper and BJ Armstrong were key starters on those Bulls superteams... Those guys were awesome!!! Oh I forgot Paxton and Kerr. Loaded from top to bottom!

**** out of here with that stupidass statement. Bulls were no superteam they just played well as a team and MJs will to win and competitiveness put them over the top. I don't remember Karl Malone joining the Bulls after they won 72-games like Durant did with the Warriors.

Russell's Celtics also played in a different era. There weren't as many teams in the league so every team was loaded. Plus it was mostly white guys playing back then. Lets keep everything in perspective here.

He knowa the differences..Dumb statement on his part

tk13 · 07-02-2018, 08:22 PM

OKC obviously screwed up, and I think they realize that now because they're not afraid to spend money.

That said... would Harden become the player he is now if he stayed with Westbrook? I don't know. Harden became an MVP when he got to have the ball in his hands all the time. That never would have happened with Westbrook and Durant in front of him. He probably doesn't reach his full potential, but that OKC team would definitely have a shot to take out the Warriors though.

KC_Connection · 07-02-2018, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Bostons stars were past 30 and non were top 5 players while Miami had 2 top 5 stars.

In 2008, KG was 2nd in WS/48, 4th in BPM, and 5th in VORP. Shockingly, you were wrong again.

**New World Order** · 07-02-2018, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

In 2008, KG was 2nd in WS/48, 4th in BPM, and 5th in VORP. Shockingly, you were wrong again.

KG didn't choose Boston; they chose him.

BigCatDaddy · 07-02-2018, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

In 2008, KG was 2nd in WS/48, 4th in BPM, and 5th in VORP. Shockingly, you were wrong again.

Im taking
LJ
Wade
Kobe
Duncan
Nash
CP3
Dirk

And you go with some stat.

06-11-2018, 09:21 AM
Al Bundy Damnit Peg Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5271831	Official 2018-2019 NBA Off Season Thread!!! Will Lebron leave Cleveland? Will KD stay in Oakland? Who goes first to the sorry ass Suns? Will the Sacramento Kings do anything to not be a bottom tier organization? Drop draft stuff in here. Draft Order. 1 Phoenix Suns Deandre Ayton C Arizona 2 Sacramento Kings Marvin Balgey III PF Duke 3 Atlanta Hawks Luke Doncic PG Slovenia (Traded to Mavericks) 4 Memphis Grizzlies Jaren Jackson JR PF Michigan State 5 Dallas Mavericks Trae Young PG Oklahoma (Traded to Atlanta) 6 Orlando Magic Mohamed Bamba C Texas 7 Chicago Bulls Wendell Carter Jr. C Duke 8 Cleveland Cavaliers (via Nets) Colin Sexton PG Alabama 9 New York Knicks Kevin Knox SF Kentucky 10 Philadelphia 76ers (via Lakers) Mikal Bridges SF Villanova (Traded to Suns for Zhaire Smith) 11 Charlotte Hornets Shai Gilgeous-Alexander PG Kentucky (Traded To Clippers) 12 Los Angeles Clippers (via Pistons) Miles Bridges SF Michigan State.(Traded to Hornets) 13 Los Angeles Clippers Jerome Robinson SG Boston College 14 Denver Nuggets Michael Porter Jr. SF Missouri 15 Washington Wizards Troy Brown Jr. SF Oregon 16 Phoenix Suns (via Heat) Zhaire Smith SF Texas Tech (Traded to Philadelphia) 17 Milwaukee Bucks Donte DiVincenzo SG Villanova 18 San Antonio Spurs Lonnie Walker IV SG Miami 19 Atlanta Hawks (via Timberwolves) Kevin Huerter SG Maryland 20 Minnesota Timberwolves (via Thunder) Josh Okogie SG Georgia Tech 21 Utah Jazz Grayson Allen SG Duke 22 Chicago Bulls (via Pelicans) Chandler Hutchison SG Boise State 23 Indiana Pacers Aaron Holiday PG UCLA 24 Portland Trail Blazers Anfernee Simons SG USA 25 Los Angeles Lakers (via Cavaliers) Moritz Wagner PF Michigan 26 Philadelphia 76ers Landry Shamet PG Wichita State 27 Boston Celtics Robert Williams C Texas A&M 28 Golden State Warriors Jacob Evans SG Cincinnati 29 Brooklyn Nets Dzanana Musa SF Bosnia-Herzegovina 30 Atlanta Hawks (via Houston Rockets) Omari Spellman PF Villanova. Last edited by Al Bundy; 06-21-2018 at 08:46 PM..
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07-02-2018, 08:22 PM	#462
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1682500	OKC obviously screwed up, and I think they realize that now because they're not afraid to spend money. That said... would Harden become the player he is now if he stayed with Westbrook? I don't know. Harden became an MVP when he got to have the ball in his hands all the time. That never would have happened with Westbrook and Durant in front of him. He probably doesn't reach his full potential, but that OKC team would definitely have a shot to take out the Warriors though.
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