Woman says Kareem Hunt shoved and pushed" her in downtown Cleveland, police say

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

In my experience, no demographic gets angry/violent more quickly than a drunken woman who was just told she can't have or do something she wanted.

especially if she has a rich background

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

In my experience, no demographic gets angry/violent more quickly than a drunken woman who was just told she can't have or do something she wanted.

Try dealing with people when their car has quit them and get back to me.

[Kiimo]

I mean, I usually want to side with the victim. But if you're screaming and pounding a door at 3:45 in the morning for 30 goddam minutes you deserve to have somebody push you.

I fully expect to never hear about this story again.

[Hammock Parties]

I swear to god, Verderame is the worst follow on Chiefs twitter.

Every tweet is dripping with condescension.

He writes for Arrowhead ****ing Addict.

[saphojunkie]

My god the responses in here are so ****ing dumb. It’s the off-season. He’s 22. He can party if he wants. So ****ing what? He found out the girls weren’t 21 and did the smart thing. Everyone chill the **** out.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

My god the responses in here are so ****ing dumb. It’s the off-season. He’s 22. He can party if he wants. So ****ing what? He found out the girls weren’t 21 and did the smart thing. Everyone chill the **** out.

Amen.

[All In]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Amen.

Double amen

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

My god the responses in here are so ****ing dumb. It’s the off-season. He’s 22. He can party if he wants. So ****ing what? He found out the girls weren’t 21 and did the smart thing. Everyone chill the **** out.

I would normally agree... However, it's a believe the women mentality right now with no due process... Cross my fingers as it doesn't look like he was at fault, but that doesn't matter lately.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...ty_chiefs.html

Rabble rouser. That's what you are....

[Hoover]

I have known some pretty powerful people. Some love to drink and party, but understanding that they are targets, they pull themselves out of bad situations by having some pretty strict rules. One guy I know (politician) leaves where ever he is at at 10 pm and goes back to where he is staying. I've seen him leave a private residence, wedding, you name it. 10 pm comes his whole operation swings into action and they get the **** out.

Amazing. Doubt I could ever do that. But its the smart thing to do.

[CoMoChief]

They didn't know she was 19 until they got home at 3-4am?

Bullshit.

They were getting her into clubs, paying for her drinks. I doubt she had a fake ID, I'm assuming they were playing the Kareem Hunt card at the door. But either way at that point they would have known her age I'm sure.

They came back to the hotel room. She probably didn't want to ****, so they kicked her ass out and she was probably drunk and got upset. That's usually how it goes at 3-4am in those kinds of situations. If you can't seal the deal then get rid of her.

Hope Hunt is cleared from all of this. Chiefs/Mahomes can't afford to lose Hunt, even if Ware returns to full health.

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

They didn't know she was 19 until they got home at 3-4am?

Bullshit.

They were getting her into clubs, paying for her drinks. I doubt she had a fake ID, I'm assuming they were playing the Kareem Hunt card at the door. But either way at that point they would have known her age I'm sure.

They came back to the hotel room. She probably didn't want to ****, so they kicked her ass out and she was probably drunk and got upset. That's usually how it goes at 3-4am in those kinds of situations. If you can't seal the deal then get rid of her.

Hope Hunt is cleared from all of this. Chiefs/Mahomes can't afford to lose Hunt, even if Ware returns to full health.

I don't know about all that. My take is that Hunt and some friends were on a party bus with other people. That would have included the skank and her friend. They latched on to Hunts party and tried to keep hanging out with them after the bus excursion ended. (By the way, great way to go out, drink, and take no risk with DUI!)

I get that above from this line that a lot of people seem to have missed or glossed over:

Originally Posted by OP

Ottinger and her friend were with Hunt, his friend, and others who spent the night on a party bus traveling between Cleveland bars, according to police reports. The women, who said they were Kent State University students, went back to Hunt's apartment with the group after their night out.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

I don't know about all that. My take is that Hunt and some friends were on a party bus with other people. That would have included the skank and her friend. They latched on to Hunts party and tried to keep hanging out with them after the bus excursion ended. (By the way, great way to go out, drink, and take no risk with DUI!)

I get that above from this line that a lot of people seem to have missed or glossed over:

So did these girls just stay on the bus while everyone else went inside the bars to drink? I dont believe that at all. I dont think they just rode around drinking on the bus all night, the article made it seem like they bar hopped, and were using party bus as transportation as well.

Unless they met at the last bar, they came along for the ride and party on the bus, they went back to hotel, and again at which point, they were trying to seal the deal, she refused, they told her to gtfo, she got mad and shit escalated to whatever. She was pushed and blames the guy whos famous w/ the money. And he very well could have pushed her, which would be bad, but I mean can that be proven? We live in a world now where women get the upper hand almost by default in these kinds of situations.

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

So did these girls just stay on the bus while everyone else went inside the bars to drink? I dont believe that at all. I dont think they just rode around drinking on the bus all night, the article made it seem like they bar hopped, and were using party bus as transportation as well.

Unless they met at the last bar, they came along for the ride and party on the bus, they went back to hotel, and again at which point, they were trying to seal the deal, she refused, they told her to gtfo, she got mad and shit escalated to whatever. She was pushed and blames the guy whos famous w/ the money. And he very well could have pushed her, which would be bad, but I mean can that be proven? We live in a world now where women get the upper hand almost by default in these kinds of situations.

Whether the girls were drinking in the bars was between them and the bar. And on the bus it would be on whoever is serving drinks there. Never been on one, don't know how that works but I assume it is not the driver serving drinks.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

They didn't know she was 19 until they got home at 3-4am?

Bullshit.

My high school friends and I used to lie that we were in college all the time when we headed over to Boston College dorms on the weekends including partying with football players. None of the guys ever suspected us. It wasn't until some other girls from a local college, we claimed to attend, asked us questions about profs and other things we got found out.

We were HS juniors and we would drink too. It was FUN!