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Old 01-07-2018, 06:33 PM   #1
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What’s depressing is that it’s hard to see the defense improving that much next year with another year of age and few draft picks. Scheme is important and Sutton should be fired, but without the personnel there’s only so much you can do.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:43 PM   #2
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What’s depressing is that it’s hard to see the defense improving that much next year with another year of age and few draft picks. Scheme is important and Sutton should be fired, but without the personnel there’s only so much you can do.
With the personel they've got it shoudln't be one of the worst defenses in the league though.

Probably not a top 5 unit but dead last? Nah.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:57 PM   #3
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With the personel they've got it shoudln't be one of the worst defenses in the league though.

Probably not a top 5 unit but dead last? Nah.
Personnel.. as in Eric Berry, Justin Houston, Chris Jones and Marcus Peters?

Those three guys are good enough to make seven other guys a top 5 unit?

Really?
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:58 PM   #4
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Personnel.. as in Eric Berry, Justin Houston, Chris Jones and Marcus Peters?

Those three guys are good enough to make seven other guys a top 5 unit?

Really?
im thinking you need to practice reading more
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Old 01-07-2018, 07:00 PM   #5
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Well I don't think you can call a defense that kept opponents under the league average for points scored 56% of the season a bottom-tier unit, but okay.
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Old 01-07-2018, 07:33 PM   #6
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Well I don't think you can call a defense that kept opponents under the league average for points scored 56% of the season a bottom-tier unit, but okay.
They were a defense that couldn't get off the field. They suck on third and long, and our offense just sits while opponents have 12 play drives. Not good enough.
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Old 01-07-2018, 07:01 PM   #7
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Personnel.. as in Eric Berry, Justin Houston, Chris Jones and Marcus Peters?

Those three guys are good enough to make seven other guys a top 5 unit?

Really?
Uh, no.

I don't think thats what I typed though so....

Those 4 guys are pretty good cornerstones to build around, and I think Ragland has showed potential to be a 5th guy there. THey need to build around them better.
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Uh, no.

I don't think thats what I typed though so....

Those 4 guys are pretty good cornerstones to build around, and I think Ragland has showed potential to be a 5th guy there. THey need to build around them better.
Q'ing myself here, but yeah, go ahead and fire Sutton but realize the front office has done basically nothing in terms of drafting and developing players since 2013.
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Q'ing myself here, but yeah, go ahead and fire Sutton but realize the front office has done basically nothing in terms of drafting and developing players since 2013.
Meh, come on.

Thats pretty hyperbolic
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:08 PM   #10
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Meh, come on.

Thats pretty hyperbolic
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Uh, no.

I don't think thats what I typed though so....

Those 4 guys are pretty good cornerstones to build around, and I think Ragland has showed potential to be a 5th guy there. THey need to build around them better.
I'd prefer to give them a competent DC, they deserve that much. Nothing rankles me more than giving up 6/10 on 3rd down, while rushing 3 and dropping 8.
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Old 01-07-2018, 07:26 PM   #12
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I believe they already owned the record before the game. They just extended it.
I suspect it's one we'll never relinquish. It takes two generations of Hunt owner-shit to get the record, and more Hunts to keep it going.
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