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Old 08-21-2017, 08:57 AM   #1
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Pass rusher and corner. Keep building the defense up.
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:02 AM   #2
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Pass rusher and corner. Keep building the defense up.
Not a bad idea but if they have a chance to do it, I'd love to see them draft a big time wr. It's probably over kill though.

Corner and or another lber would be ideal though
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:11 AM   #3
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Not a bad idea but if they have a chance to do it, I'd love to see them draft a big time wr. It's probably over kill though.

Corner and or another lber would be ideal though
OLB, CB, D-line, O-line, RB are the likely priorities, although, I must say that most of you guys way overrate the need for a cornerback.

The Chiefs were 7th in points allowed last year with massive injuries to the D-line and linebackers, along with Gaines, who was in and out of the lineup due to his knee. The Chiefs still won 12 games (and could have won 2 more with a little offensive help).

You're not going to have a Pro Bowler at every defensive position.
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:20 AM   #4
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OLB, CB, D-line, O-line, RB are the likely priorities, although, I must say that most of you guys way overrate the need for a cornerback.

The Chiefs were 7th in points allowed last year with massive injuries to the D-line and linebackers, along with Gaines, who was in and out of the lineup due to his knee. The Chiefs still won 12 games (and could have won 2 more with a little offensive help).

You're not going to have a Pro Bowler at every defensive position.
Hence why I think they need to try and up the offensive skill guys in the next couple years.

They had quite a few flukes last year as well. As usual in the NFL, they were a bounce or two from +or - 2 games. 14 and 2 or 10 and 6 .

Keeping their star defensive players healthy is gonna be a big thing this year
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:35 AM   #5
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Hence why I think they need to try and up the offensive skill guys in the next couple years.
The thing is that it's pretty rare for wide receivers drafted early to make any kind of impact. There are far more 1st and 2nd round "misses" at WR than probably any other position.

If a "sure thing" like a Mike Evans fell into their lap, then sure, go for it.

But look at guys like Marquis Lee, Sammy Watkins, Jordan Matthews, Kelvin Benjamin, Cody Lattimer, Kevin White, Nelson Agholor, Breshad Perriman, Phillip Dorsett, DeVante Parker, Devin Smith, Dorial Green-Beckham, Devin Funchess, Jalen Strong, Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Docston, Laquon Treadwell, Braxton Miller and Leonte Caroo.

These guys were all 1st and 2nd rounders, going back to 2014, that have failed to live up to expectations.

I kind of prefer the Chiefs method of drafting rawer guys like Conley and coaching them up, as opposed to wasting a high draft pick on a receiver that fails to put up numbers even equal to Conley's second season.
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The thing is that it's pretty rare for wide receivers drafted early to make any kind of impact. There are far more 1st and 2nd round "misses" at WR than probably any other position.

If a "sure thing" like a Mike Evans fell into their lap, then sure, go for it.

But look at guys like Marquis Lee, Sammy Watkins, Jordan Matthews, Kelvin Benjamin, Cody Lattimer, Kevin White, Nelson Agholor, Breshad Perriman, Phillip Dorsett, DeVante Parker, Devin Smith, Dorial Green-Beckham, Devin Funchess, Jalen Strong, Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Docston, Laquon Treadwell, Braxton Miller and Leonte Caroo.

These guys were all 1st and 2nd rounders, going back to 2014, that have failed to live up to expectations.

I kind of prefer the Chiefs method of drafting rawer guys like Conley and coaching them up, as opposed to wasting a high draft pick on a receiver that fails to put up numbers even equal to Conley's second season.
Drafting is essentially more about fit of the player in the system they're drafted too. So many draft "busts" just go into systems they don't necessarily fit into or to guys that aren't great at tailoring an offense to a guy.

Andy is great schematically for offensive skill guys in getting them open. In situations like Kelce where you get an super talent in that scheme he can take off. That's why I'd like to see them put a legit talent across from tyreek if the Conley thing doesn't work out.
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Drafting is essentially more about fit of the player in the system they're drafted too. So many draft "busts" just go into systems they don't necessarily fit into or to guys that aren't great at tailoring an offense to a guy.

Andy is great schematically for offensive skill guys in getting them open. In situations like Kelce where you get an super talent in that scheme he can take off. That's why I'd like to see them put a legit talent across from tyreek if the Conley thing doesn't work out.
While there's some truth to that, guys like Watkins, that had great measurables, shouldn't be failures in the NFL, yet it happens every year.

It would be nice to see someone across from Tyreek and I think Conley is still ascending. Plus, they've drafted Robinson and Chesson and have an intriguing guy in Jones, so it's not for a lack of trying.

I'd rather see them continue the pattern of taking defensive skill position players early while coaching up wide receivers along with offensive and defensive lineman.

Even Kelce was a third.
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