QB Impressions - Page 9

Direckshun · 01-03-2017, 12:25 AM

First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.

Quesadilla Joe · 03-03-2017, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You gave Geno a higher grade than all of these guys?

This forum saw what they wanted to see with Geno. I'm not going to call them out, but a pretty respected poster said that Geno reminded him of a mix between John Elway and Aaron Rodgers. CP desperately wanted a QB to be worthy of the #1 pick that year and it led to them overrating Geno.

KChiefs1 · 03-03-2017, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Casserly say's there are no legit 1st rdrs this year and a handful of teams will get burned because of their need pushing these guys up from actual 3rd to 4th rd actual talent. Is he correct ??

So another Geno Smith type year?

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KChiefs1 · 03-03-2017, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Mahommes hands are barely over 9 inches. Please god let teams freak out over this like they did with Carr/Bridgewater.

Fall down that board Pat!

Little hands, little cock.

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KChiefs1 · 03-03-2017, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Some of Greg Cosell's thoughts on this year's QB class...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la...302-story.html

Spoiler!

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame: “He looks the part. He’s got the size you want, a really good arm. When you watch Kizer there’s a lot of things that you really like. But then there’s an issue when you watch him on tape that he has what we call ‘slow eyes.’ He tends to be a beat late on a lot of throws. If you’re a beat late in college, that just gets exacerbated at the NFL level. That doesn’t mean you’re not going to draft him, but it’s something you need to be aware of and work on. As you build your offense with DeShone Kizer, you have to be aware of certain route concepts and play calls that might make that problem worse.”

Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech: “He’s got a very good arm. He’s a loose thrower. But he played in the Air Raid offense for Kliff Kingsbury. It’s an offense built on timing and structure and rhythm, and he played with almost no timing and structure and rhythm. He’s really gifted in a lot of areas. But buried under a lot of NFL-type talent is an alarming lack of any refinement for the position at this moment. He’s someone who’s going to need to be coached hard, harnessed. He’s going to have to be receptive to the principles of being a nuanced, disciplined NFL quarterback. The playmaking mentality that he thrived on in college is going to have to be channeled and almost re-trained. He needs to be receptive to that.”

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina: “There’s a toughness and competitiveness to the way he plays that’s very appealing. For the most part he was safe with the football. But he has a flaw that you have to be careful about. When he throws the ball, he locks his front leg. When you do that, you can’t really drive the ball. So there’s a lot of throws with Trubisky that at the intermediate and deep-intermediate level where the ball loses energy. A lot of those throws in college were successful, they were touchdowns, but they were not throws that will work in the NFL. Normally, guys that are locked-front-leg throwers, that doesn’t change through coaching. It’s just something you have to be aware of.”

Deshaun Watson, Clemson: “He’ll be an intriguing guy because he’s played in a lot of big games and for the most part has had success. Different teams will quantify that differently, but it does mean something. He’s a little smaller than you’d ideally desire. He’ll gain weight to be as rocked-up as he can, so the number on the scale will look good. My guess is he’ll get to 218, 220, but he’s not really a 220-pound guy. He’s a little bit of a placer of the football in the way he throws. He doesn’t really drive the football. So he’s got a good arm, but not the ideal arm you’d like to see. He’s what you’d call an orchestrator and distributor of the football. He’s a point guard. He’ll need weapons around him and a run game. He has enhanced value because he can run. But as far as a thrower from the pocket, you’re going to need to work with him. He’s in some ways like an Alex Smith-type player.”

Mahomes is the only guy I'd consider.

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Titty Meat · 03-03-2017, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

Literally **** all of these middling QB prospects.

I don't want any of them.

Yup

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-03-2017, 01:14 PM

Deshaun Watson says he had a formal interview with the #Chiefs on Tuesday. KC definitely meeting with QBs.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) March 3, 2017

staylor26 · 03-03-2017, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Deshaun Watson says he had a formal interview with the #Chiefs on Tuesday. KC definitely meeting with QBs.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) March 3, 2017

It's pretty obvious that they're looking for our QBOTF

RunKC · 03-03-2017, 01:17 PM

Chiefs met with Mahommes

Hammock Parties · 03-03-2017, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You gave Geno a higher grade than all of these guys?

Geno taught me something, and that's not to get too high on guys like Mahomes.

Quesadilla Joe · 03-03-2017, 08:23 PM

Cecil Lammey said on Denver radio that the buzz was 4 QB's would go in the first round and that Mahomes could go to KC. He also said that KC is smitten with Deshaun Watson and that KC may move up to get him.

kcchiefsus · 03-04-2017, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

It's pretty obvious that they're looking for our QBOTF

They'll show their hand and someone else will take the guy we want. It's the Chiefs way.

Hammock Parties · 03-04-2017, 08:21 AM

Almost a 4.9 for Kizer.

Slower than I thought.

KChiefs1 · 03-04-2017, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

Geno taught me something, and that's not to get too high on guys like Mahomes.

He taught me something too. That your opinion isn't worth shit.

Titty Meat · 03-04-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

Almost a 4.9 for Kizer.

Slower than I thought.

He's not very good

RunKC · 03-04-2017, 11:39 AM

SiriusXM NFL Radio

Jim Miller on Brad Kaaya: Thats a guy you can develop! Clean footwork, makes ALL the throws... Kirwan: I'd like to have him on MY team

Underrated QB choice for Chiefs IMO

01-03-2017, 12:25 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $3293447	QB Impressions First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight. DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame 6'4", 230 lbs 26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence. Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina 6'3", 220 lbs 30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.
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03-03-2017, 01:17 PM	#128
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $409611	Chiefs met with Mahommes __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3428675	Cecil Lammey said on Denver radio that the buzz was 4 QB's would go in the first round and that Mahomes could go to KC. He also said that KC is smitten with Deshaun Watson and that KC may move up to get him.
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03-04-2017, 08:21 AM	#132
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $2850478	Almost a 4.9 for Kizer. Slower than I thought. __________________ Chiefs game films
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03-04-2017, 11:39 AM	#135
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $409611	SiriusXM NFL Radio Jim Miller on Brad Kaaya: Thats a guy you can develop! Clean footwork, makes ALL the throws... Kirwan: I'd like to have him on MY team Underrated QB choice for Chiefs IMO __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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