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Old 01-18-2016, 12:29 PM   #1
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^ what you thinking there, Mr. Laz?
Howard is not Hudson and he is at a premiere position in the NFL

He can play NT or DE.

He's better at NT imo.


I think if our defense was better coached he would even have more impact.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:35 PM   #2
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Howard is not Hudson and he is at a premiere position in the NFL

He can play NT or DE.

He's better at NT imo.


I think if our defense was better coached he would even have more impact.
True that. Would love for him to stay, but if he really insists on being at the top of the food-chain? eh... I don't know about that. My guess is KC really tries hard to keep him, and at the cost of waving g'bye to Sean Smith and Daniel.

He will stay if he gives KC any kind of break... but if he's all about making that top 5 DL money? best of luck to him, and there's the door. With Bailey and Poe.. and potentially Devito and some young talent already there... Howard is not a must-keep.

I say this as someone who most highly praises the guys in the trenches... but it is what it is.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:38 PM   #3
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True that. Would love for him to stay, but if he really insists on being at the top of the food-chain? eh... I don't know about that. My guess is KC really tries hard to keep him, and at the cost of waving g'bye to Sean Smith and Daniel.

He will stay if he gives KC any kind of break... but if he's all about making that top 5 DL money? best of luck to him, and there's the door. With Bailey and Poe.. and potentially Devito and some young talent already there... Howard is not a must-keep.

I say this as someone who most highly praises the guys in the trenches... but it is what it is.
I have no idea how much he's asking. Any player can price themselves out of a job.

Let's not get it twisted though and start talking like he's not worth having.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:40 PM   #4
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I have no idea how much he's asking. Any player can price themselves out of a job.

Let's not get it twisted though and start talking like he's not worth having.
yeah, right on.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:28 PM   #5
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Right now, we have 67m dedicated to next years offense and only 41m on defense.

Should equal out to be around 75m on each side.

No reason not to keep 2/3 of Howard, Berry and Smith.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:31 PM   #6
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The DL didn't lose the game for us.

The game plan and lack of adjustments did.

Giving Edelman a free release all day will never, ever work in your favor.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:36 PM   #7
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The DL didn't lose the game for us.

The game plan and lack of adjustments did.

Giving Edelman a free release all day will never, ever work in your favor.
The Patriots ran the ball 6 or 7 times(not counting QB scramble)

Quick passing game all day long neutralized our Dline and pass rush.

You don't cover Edelman, you lose.


don't want to hear about hindsight either because this was also said before the game. Anyone paying attention knew what the patriots were going to try to do. We let them.
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So, why not play press man in Nickel with a single high S most of the day? Would that not have been a wise approach?
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:50 PM   #9
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Hey bear, how about you hide those long lists?

just a suggestion

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Old 01-18-2016, 12:55 PM   #10
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:53 PM   #11
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I think Berry, Johnson and Hali are no-brainers.

The choice is gonna be Howard or Smith.

I think Howard is more valuable the next few years. Having Bailey, Howard and Poe locked up for the next 4-5 years would be huge.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:54 PM   #12
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I think we can get by without Allen as well. He's not worth a big contract with being injury prone. I'd like him back but at a fair deal. If he leaves then we have..

Fish
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Worst case. Add in an early and midrd pick for a starter and depth.
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One thing that needs to be said-- you bring Howard back at the risk of losing Poe. He is a FA after 2016.
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Old 01-18-2016, 01:33 PM   #14
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One thing that needs to be said-- you bring Howard back at the risk of losing Poe. He is a FA after 2016.
of course, choices have to be made, i'm sure a plan exists already

But Howard is not Hudson, he is not JAG

All depends on how much he wants etc, like it does on all FA.


How much is everyone prepared to spend at the position of Safety?
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One thing that needs to be said-- you bring Howard back at the risk of losing Poe. He is a FA after 2016.
Poe is worth top 5 money.
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