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Old 08-23-2015, 06:03 PM  
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Cris Carter in hot water for telling rookies to "have a fall guy"
This is from last year, but apparently now just coming to light. It was on the NFL's website.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ve-a-fall-guy/

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Cris Carter urged NFL rookies to have a “fall guy”
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 23, 2015, 4:39 PM EDT

A recent ESPN feature on former 49ers linebacker Chris Borland described Borland as “appalled” by what he heard at the 2014 Rookie Symposium, when a former NFL player told the rookies that they should have a “fall guy” in their crew who would take the blame if they faced legal trouble. What ESPN failed to mention is that the former player who gave that appalling advice was an ESPN employee, Cris Carter.

Although the ESPN feature says that Borland “declined to name” the player, the writers easily could have identified Carter as the source of the comments, because the video of Carter’s presentation at the Rookie Symposium is available at NFL.com.

The presentation went basically how Borland described it in the ESPN feature: Carter told rookies that they should have one friend who will be willing to take the blame if they ever get into trouble. Warren Sapp, onstage along with Carter, agreed.

“If you all got a crew, you got to have a fall guy in the crew,” Carter said. “If you all have a crew, one of those fools got to know, he’s the one going to jail. We’ll get him out.”

Sapp then repeated, “We’ll get him out.”

Those comments didn’t sit well with Borland, and they likely won’t sit well with most people hearing them now. But the NFL apparently didn’t have a problem with what Carter said: His presentation was posted on the league’s own website, and Carter was invited back to speak at this year’s Rookie Symposium.

UPDATE 5:23 p.m. ET: Shortly after we posted this item, NFL.com removed the video.
Someone uploaded a clip of the video with their cell phone. Teddy Bridgewater gets used as the example. I can't believe the NFL had this on their website.

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Old 08-24-2015, 03:02 PM   #166
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lol....wtf. This isn't racist at all, nope.
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Nope, not racist at all.
Well, I see how it can be confusing for you - a lot of weak - minded people have tried to convince me that the truth is racism for my entire life.

Luckily, I'm aware enough and have enough to trust myself and my own perceptions over what some bullshitters try and feed me.

I'm blessed with a mind of my own; I understand that racism exists only as a social construct, and that the word didn't even exist before Stalin - era Russia...and that it was used to describe "non-conformists" who were anti-communists.

You know...words have meanings. Check it out. Read a book. Enlighten yourself. Break the chains of your own mental slavery.


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Wow, so Robert Klemko of Sports Illustrated and The MMQB was asked to keep this off the record, yet the NFL posted it on their website.

Roger Goodell's NFL is a laughingstock.

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Wow, so Robert Klemko of Sports Illustrated and The MMQB was asked to keep this off the record, yet the NFL posted it on their website.

Roger Goodell's NFL is a laughingstock.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snahig
It's pretty bad.

I fear that this is only the tip of the iceberg. In the NFL, where there's smoke...there are firefighters trying to quash a raging inferno.
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I just find it interesting that Bortland throws Carter under the bus for this (possibly joking, probably not) comment after he retires from the league.

Also, there's nothing particularly shocking about recommending a fall guy. They're useful in all sorts of situations.

Would you consider being my fall guy? In an inexcusable lack of planning on my part, I don't have one.
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Well, I see how it can be confusing for you - a lot of weak - minded people have tried to convince me that the truth is racism for my entire life.

Luckily, I'm aware enough and have enough to trust myself and my own perceptions over what some bullshitters try and feed me.

I'm blessed with a mind of my own; I understand that racism exists only as a social construct, and that the word didn't even exist before Stalin - era Russia...and that it was used to describe "non-conformists" who were anti-communists.

You know...words have meanings. Check it out. Read a book. Enlighten yourself. Break the chains of your own mental slavery.


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I wouldn't know, I'm a Native American.
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Indeed.

If I had my way, we would all be equal and live in harmony with each other and we would all have nice houses and have nice things and all people would work together in every aspect of humanity...

But here, in the really real world, I know that it's not that way. I'm not afraid of being called a "racist"; I know what I am and what I am not.
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Oh, so these apply to you also then?

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Oh, so these apply to you also then?

Get a check each month
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Nope. I'm a Blackfoot. We don't get shit, that's Cherokee.

Nice stereotype though.

If I believed in racism, I'd call you a bigot...but I know that you're just ignorant.
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