538 Calls Tom Brady the 43rd Clutchest Postseason QB

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Troy Brown! Deion Branch! All time greats!

The article isn't suggesting Tom Brady had better skill level offensive players around him.

It's suggesting that he had much better teams around him. Teams. Not just an offense. Teams.

For instance.

In Tom Brady's 9-0 start to his postseason career, the most important part of those teams were the defense. Tom was in charge of just trying to be efficient and not ****ing up. We all know that.

Skews the numbers.

Peyton has always had to be the best player on his team. Always. Tom? Not during the successful part of his postseason career. Those teams were always defensive minded teams with Tom being a very efficient game manager.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

The article isn't suggesting Tom Brady had better skill level offensive players around him.

It's suggesting that he had much better teams around him. Teams. Not just an offense. Teams.

For instance.

In Tom Brady's 9-0 start to his postseason career, the most important part of those teams were the defense. Tom was in charge of just trying to be efficient and not ****ing up. We all know that.

Skews the numbers.

Peyton has always had to be the best player on his team. Always. Tom? Not during the successful part of his postseason career. Those teams were always defensive minded teams with Tom being a very efficient game manager.

Hahahaha.

Who the **** cares about that in a 'QB driven' league?!?!?!



Perhaps the most tired meme in all of football.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Hahahaha.

Who the **** cares about that in a 'QB driven' league?!?!?!



Perhaps the most tired meme in all of football.

I agree.

So it's official, then.

Tom Brady has always been on better teams than Peyton Manning so we can no longer pretend that Tom only loses because he doesn't have enough weapons ... since his teams are always expected to win...and even with Matt Cassel, still expected to win half of the time in the most pressure packed games (playoff games) as proven by Nate Silver.

Whereas, without Peyton, his team would only be expected to win 1 out of every 3 times.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I agree.

So it's official, then.

Tom Brady has always been on better teams than Peyton Manning so we can no longer pretend that Tom only loses because he doesn't have enough weapons ... since his teams are always expected to win...and even with Matt Cassel, still expected to win half of the time in the most pressure packed games (playoff games) as proven by Nate Silver.

Whereas, without Peyton, his team would only be expected to win 1 out of every 3 times.

here you go again saying this article actually PROVES something.


cue the "i never said that" post

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I agree.

So it's official, then.

Tom Brady has always been on better teams than Peyton Manning so we can no longer pretend that Tom only loses because he doesn't have enough weapons ... since his teams are always expected to win...and even with Matt Cassel, still expected to win half of the time in the most pressure packed games (playoff games) as proven by Nate Silver.

Whereas, without Peyton, his team would only be expected to win 1 out of every 3 times.

Who gives a shit about other teams.

How about we stop pretending that the Chiefs would 'rape faces' if the only thing we changed was some magical superstar QB we missed out on [Rodgers being the exception] or upgrading team deficiencies if a waste of team so long as Alex is our QB.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

In Tom Brady's 9-0 start to his postseason career, the most important part of those teams were the defense. Tom was in charge of just trying to be efficient and not ****ing up. We all know that.

Skews the numbers.

Peyton has always had to be the best player on his team. Always. Tom? Not during the successful part of his postseason career. Those teams were always defensive minded teams with Tom being a very efficient game manager.

So in other words, he was Russell Wilson?

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

So in other words, he was Russell Wilson?

and wouldn't he take Russell over Rodgers? Yet, Brady has the pedigree to back up his "game managing".

I don't understand the concept of a QB needing to be the hero when he can rely on other aspects of the team to get the job done. A great QB knows how to play chess.

[Psyko Tek]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

The article isn't suggesting Tom Brady had better skill level offensive players around him.

It's suggesting that he had much better teams around him. Teams. Not just an offense. Teams.

For instance.

In Tom Brady's 9-0 start to his postseason career, the most important part of those teams were the defense. Tom was in charge of just trying to be efficient and not ****ing up. We all know that.

Skews the numbers.

Peyton has always had to be the best player on his team. Always. Tom? Not during the successful part of his postseason career. Those teams were always defensive minded teams with Tom being a very efficient game manager.

o you are saying defenses win champion ships?
and QBs just get endorsements?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

o you are saying defenses win champion ships?
and QBs just get endorsements?

I'd say, as I have for years, savior elite QBs are unicorns. The closest was when Elway willed the Donkeys to 3 lopsided SB losses, and the second closest was when Manning willed OK teams to a rash of 1 and dones.

SBs are won by good QBs on great teams and great QBs on good teams, 1-53.

'The right 53' might be attached to a shitty control-freak GM, but it's a sound premise. You can't have 30-35 amazing players and win, let alone 1. You need a team that either masks the shortcomings of the QB or a QB that overcomes a few controllable inadequacies on the team.

What people miss in the hype of a QB driven league, is the rise of comprehensive analysis. With all the HD footage, and replay capability, and advanced analytics, football minds can exploit everything that happens on the field. It's now longer the simple story of a GREAT MAN drawing a play in the dirt. It's knowing that one chip technique has a 5% greater success rate than another on a particular play, or the success rate for every inch away a FG attempt is made.