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2015 Rock Hall Of Fame Class Includes Lou Reed, Joan Jett, Green Day

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Both The Smiths and N.W.A. were left off the list of new inductees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, as Hall voters instead chose acts such as Lou Reed, Bill Withers, and Joan Jett and the Blackhearts. They'll be welcomed to the Hall in April.

"About 700 music journalists, performers and other industry insiders spent two months deciding on the six inductees," David C. Barnett of member station WCPN in Cleveland reports.

Barnett adds, "Artists are eligible for induction 25 years after their first recording. Los Angeles soul singer Bill Withers' first album came out in 1971, but this is his first time on the ballot."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...jett-green-day
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:27 PM   #16
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Please name all of the songs that Frank Sinatra wrote.

Thanks in advance.
You're comparing Joan Jett to Frank Sinatra?
And he's not in there either.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:29 PM   #17
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I had a couple of her albums as a teen, and the woman knows how to rock. Whether she wrote or not, she could execute a song like nobody's business. I Love Rock And Roll is one of the best car songs ever.
So can a lot of cover bands at bars on Saturday nights.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:39 PM   #18
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So can a lot of cover bands at bars on Saturday nights.
If there are cover bands as good as Joan Jett, I'm going to start going to bars.
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Old 12-16-2014, 06:00 PM   #19
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I like Joan, but there's a lot of more deserving acts. I mean ELO isn't good enough? Deep purple?
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Old 12-16-2014, 06:02 PM   #20
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I have no problem with any of these acts getting in. If anything, they improve the standing of the R&R HoF by being part of it.
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Old 12-16-2014, 06:07 PM   #21
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First, the ROR HOF is stupid.
But since it does exist...There is no reason for Joan Jett to be in there. For what? Just for being a female rocker? The couple hits she had and anything anyone has heard of are all covers.
Yes, it has been lame. But if it is going to exist then Joan Jett belongs in there.
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Old 12-16-2014, 06:55 PM   #22
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If there are cover bands as good as Joan Jett, I'm going to start going to bars.
I'm not saying she sucks or anything. She can hold her own on stage and she's much better than any of the other females in her genre. I just don't see it as a HOF resume. I guess if you heavily weigh her status as a female, but the music itself is really nothing special, especially considering almost all her known songs are re-worked versions already done by other bands.
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:02 PM   #23
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Ijust don't see it as a HOF resume.
What is a Rock n Roll HoF resume?

What are the qualifiers? X number of hits? X number of albums sold?

Or is it just subjective BS?
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:17 PM   #24
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I don't get Green Day either...
They paved the way for mainstream (pop) "punk" music and culture in the 90s. Hands down, it was them more than anything else: image, sound and otherwise. Dookie is an all-time classic and iconic album.

I like to think American Idiot and all the bullshit after that never happened though when I think of Green Day, but I guess you can't be stoner kids as musicians forever.

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Old 12-16-2014, 07:44 PM   #27
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They paved the way for mainstream (pop) "punk" music and culture in the 90s. Hands down, it was them more than anything else: image, sound and otherwise. Dookie is an all-time classic and iconic album.
So they made punk pop music.

Yeah, that's what they did. Punk had been around for 10 years and done much better. And in it's true form.

And the whole point of Punk was to not conform to pop music norms. Which we're now giving credit to Green Day for doing.

Hell, Bleach by Nirvana was a punk/alternative album that's only recognized after the fact.
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So they made punk pop music.

Yeah, that's what they did. Punk had been around for 10 years and done much better. And in it's true form.

And the whole point of Punk was to not conform to pop music norms. Which we're now giving credit to Green Day for doing.

Hell, Bleach by Nirvana was a punk/alternative album that's only recognized after the fact.
This is the Rock Hall Of Fame, not "lulz who did it first hall of fame" or "punk purity hall of fame." Alternative/grunge was already established by that time, pop punk took that and breathed life into it. Green Day were instrumental in making "pop punk" what it is today -- for better or worse. No way in hell are they punk godfathers or on the mount rushmore of punk but this recognition is about awarding influential musicians in the last 25 years of their existence in which Green Day is well deserving. Even when they came back and adopted the whole My Chemical Romance/Emo/Scene kid thing, they blew up again for a whole new generation.
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What is a Rock n Roll HoF resume?

What are the qualifiers? X number of hits? X number of albums sold?

Or is it just subjective BS?
Yeah, mostly. I mean, it's music. Jimi Hendrix didn't really have any hits.
Hits and sales are part of the measure I suppose, but also influence, timelessness, uniqueness, and other "subjective' aspects are all part of it.
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