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Get some balls and do what your boss wants you to do. Calling someone to fire them is a moral issue in management you are just going to have to get the **** over if you want to move up, as you say you do. Don't take this wrong or anything. But you are not management material I would look for if a call to inform a employee the are fired is causing you a moral issue. How long have you been in management and how many people have you fired in the past? |
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11-16-2014, 01:22 AM | #77 |
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Since you aren't going to answer the question I will just give you what I think you are. You are security guard in a mall or retail setting. Contract, used and abused. Mediocre pay at best with benefits that are barely meh.
How many security and/or criminal justice courses have you taken? |
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11-16-2014, 01:27 AM | #79 | |
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You can ignore me all you want with whatever sort of moral superiority issue you have with me. But the problem isn't with me, your boss, or even the employee. It's you. You are the problem. Good luck moving up. |
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11-16-2014, 01:46 AM | #82 | |
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Yeah, you're way too emotional. I have achieved some success, not where I want to be. But the proverbial peak has hit, so to speak where I am at right now. Time to move to a larger market TBH. But I have earned the little success I have presently because I worked hard for it. Not on how I fire someone. |
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11-16-2014, 01:54 AM | #83 |
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Subordinates are there for the same thing you are. A paycheck.
I have no problem keeping my employees satisfied. To me it shows the professionalism of a person if they can perform just as well standing next to someone they like, as well as someone they don't like. You are looking for some kind of utopia in the workplace that doesn't exist. Not everyone is going to have your respect, not everyone is going to like you. Get over it. You are management now. That is just the way it is. I know, I know. Every new incoming manager has these dreams of everyone will just fall in line with their program and everyone will like and respect one another. But it never happens. It's naive to think it does. |
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Tell your boss to go **** himself, but before doing so set up a specialized computer program that diverts fractions of cents from each transaction your company makes and re-directs it to a dummy account in, say, Switzerland or something like that and then sit back and reap the rewards . . . .
Consider it severance. |
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Fire Joe. Re-hire Joe after Boss is gone and you are the boss.
Other than that, there aren't enough details about pay and longevity and your career plans to know if it is worth the risk being insubordinate. It is usually not a good idea but if you are working at MacDonalds, I'm not sure how long you are going to be there that this matters. If you are gunning for 7 figure paid CEO of a fortune 500 company, you may not want to risk killing your career. From the first few pages to the thread, I have no clue how transient this job is for you. Are you 40 and you will be doing this job you have had your heart set on until you are 60? Fire Joe, hire him back later. Are you 27 and this is a temp job on your way to bigger things, then you can probably kiss off boss because this isn't the end all anyway. From your first few pages, I have no clue how important this job is to you as a lifelong career dream. |
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Is there emotion involved? Yes. But a man that doesn't use some emotion and thought behind his decisions is one to be quickly betrayed by those beneath him. I haven't reached my goals either, I am never satisfied, but that doesn't mean I am willing to cut the throats of others to achieve it. Life is life. I have 2 boys to raise and I want them to know what it is to be a man. If that requires me making a bit less, to prove a point to make them quality men, then so be it. Because what it all boils down to is what you leave behind. I'll be leaving quality humans, who can respect others, in this Earth with my perspective, what will you be leaving behind?
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You are wanting a meeting to fire your employee. Your boss just wants you to call him, give him the business end of the deal and not say anything else. Nothing you say is going to help the guy or earn any kind of hero boss respect you are seeking. It has even the potential to end up hurting the company you work for speaking him to more. You need a management course or 3. Last edited by Abba-Dabba; 11-16-2014 at 02:24 AM.. |
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Now I see how far off we are in understanding. Just for clarification, as I have said before: I don't interview then fire. That is not my position. That is operation's position to decide to fire after my interview, but I feel you should look the man in the eyes and tell him he is fired. You looked him in the eyes and told him he was hired, why the discrepancy?
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What ever you have learned about how to treat people in life's trying times is ****ed up. Nobody likes that shit to happen surrounded by peers or in public of any sort. That shit can be embarrassing for the former employee. It's you that are the tool. |
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