So where have |Zach| and all the Soccer fans gone?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Yeah and I dont understand it. When I watch & root for teams, its because I have a geographical or cultural connection with them. Seems to me EPL American fans are those same fans who lived in Blue Springs all their life and like the Red Sox.

That is a terrible analogy. Here's a better one. Say you were born in Canada and loved football. If you were going to watch football and wanted to watch the best football possible, would you limit yourself to the CFL, or would you watch the NFL?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by -King-

That is a terrible analogy. Here's a better one. Say you were born in Canada and loved football. If you were going to watch football and wanted to watch the best football possible, would you limit yourself to the CFL, or would you watch the NFL?

Well almost every major Canadian city is extremely close geographically to the US. Its not like its across the pond

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Well almost every major Canadian city is extremely close geographically to the US. Its not like its across the pond

You had an ill-advised hare-brained notion of a point to make that flamed out. Rub some dirt in it, shrug it off and move on.

[SPATCH]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Well almost every major Canadian city is extremely close geographically to the US. Its not like its across the pond

Hi, welcome to the 21st century. We have televisions and the internet.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by SPATCH

Hi, welcome to the 21st century. We have televisions and the internet.

My point is, im a fan of teams I grew up with or where I live. Im never going to root for any English or European team, ever. I know some ppl aren't programmed like me, its just my opinion. I can get maybe following other soccer leagues but there are so many Americans that are huge fan of foreign teams. It just annoys me, because bandwagon fans annoy the hell out of me.

And Baby Lees thought that the NBA isnt fundamentally sound and that they dont play defense in the NBA is laughable. Theres a ton of good NBA scorers that just dont play because they are so bad defensively. In the NBA defense is at a premium in recent years. In college its more of a plodding game that lacks flow because slower defenders are allowed to hand check, hack and grab all they want. The college game has even tried to crack down on this in recent years, but it has only cleaned it up to some degree.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by BWillie

My point is, im a fan of teams I grew up with or where I live. Im never going to root for any English or European team, ever. I know some ppl aren't programmed like me, its just my opinion. I can get maybe following other soccer leagues but there are so many Americans that are huge fan of foreign teams. It just annoys me, because bandwagon fans annoy the hell out of me.

It doesn't have anything to do with bandwagon. It has to do with wanting to see the best in the world compete. A basketball fan in China is going to watch the NBA. A football fan in Europe will watch the NFL. It's that simple. Do you think hardcore basketball fans in China aren't going to want to watch and root for LeBron, Kobe, Durant etc?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by -King-

It doesn't have anything to do with bandwagon. It has to do with wanting to see the best in the world compete. A basketball fan in China is going to watch the NBA. A football fan in Europe will watch the NFL. It's that simple. Do you think hardcore basketball fans in China aren't going to want to watch and root for LeBron, Kobe, Durant etc?

Right. I acknowledged that. Watching is different than rooting for a given team. There are Americans that are legitimately Messi, Ronaldo, or Manchester United fans etc

[-King-]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Right. I acknowledged that. Watching is different than rooting for a given team. There are Americans that are legitimately Messi, Ronaldo, or Manchester United fans etc

Why is it different? Why can't you root for something you're interested in? Your geographical argument makes no sense at all. So because you were born in a certain location, you're gridlocked to rooting for the teams in that location? Why? If you like watching EPL, you'll eventually like some teams style or players more than another's and start rooting for them. It's that simple.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by -King-

It doesn't have anything to do with bandwagon. It has to do with wanting to see the best in the world compete. A basketball fan in China is going to watch the NBA. A football fan in Europe will watch the NFL. It's that simple. Do you think hardcore basketball fans in China aren't going to want to watch and root for LeBron, Kobe, Durant etc?

Perfectly reasonable to follow the NBA, but root for the Shanghai Sharks or whatever China league bball teams they have over there

[rico]

Originally Posted by -King-

It doesn't have anything to do with bandwagon. It has to do with wanting to see the best in the world compete. A basketball fan in China is going to watch the NBA. A football fan in Europe will watch the NFL. It's that simple. Do you think hardcore basketball fans in China aren't going to want to watch and root for LeBron, Kobe, Durant etc?

Honest question. Considering that this is the case, which country's soccer do soccer fans in the U.S. follow?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by rico

Honest question. Considering that this is the case, which country's soccer do soccer fans in the U.S. follow?

England for EPL or Spain for La Liga.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by -King-

That is a terrible analogy. Here's a better one. Say you were born in Canada and loved football. If you were going to watch football and wanted to watch the best football possible, would you limit yourself to the CFL, or would you watch the NFL?

He's already on record as a diehard fanatic of the Yamaguchi Butt****ers of the Asian league of American Football over all American Football anywhere.