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09-15-2014, 04:42 PM | #781 |
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You're saying I can't be critical of people who hit their kids with shit as discipline.
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09-15-2014, 04:50 PM | #782 | |
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But when you start saying shit like "everyone who hits their kid with a paddle is wrong" or some kind of abuser, then I have to disagree... There are positives and negatives with every decision you will make (or not make, or let your kids make, or not lets your kids make for themselves)...It is honestly endless....Using a paddle or belt to scare a child into behaving is definitely on the extreme side.......I would hate to ever have to do that.,...I pray I wont...But my kid is pretty awesome and compliant. I absolutely refuse to label a parent "bad" , "wrong" or "abusive" SIMPLY because they choose to use a paddle for corporal punishment, as long as they're not breaking laws or causing damage etc... and it is part of a discipline system and not just some kind of impulse or anger thing. Sure some are going overboard, (like AP did) ....But I refuse to say that ALL are...
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09-15-2014, 05:00 PM | #783 |
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Yeah the world is such a better place today and kids are so much more well behaved and respectful then they were back then.
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And your argument that my grandmother swatting my ass with a wooden spoon could have caused me emotional damage because it stings?...
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Barkley brought up the fact that the majority of southern blacks use whipping implements to discipline their kids. He also said a bunch of other stuff, but that much is true. Why is that kind of discipline higher among racial lines in that particular region of the United States? It's cultural, that's why. It's not genetic-- black kids don't respond to being whipped/whopped/popped better than white kids do. |
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or a raised voice.... Its not logical....thats the problem. Its pure emotional.
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Should I go back through all of your posts and see the terminology you used?
The implication I got was that you are claiming that every parent who uses a tool to do corporal punishment was wrong - because of the abuse. I don't know exactly how you worded it....but it seemed like it was pretty clear that this was your position.
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Here's my post again. Feel free to respond to it. Aaaaanytime now... |
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Also, Pawn, you should probably rethink what a straw man actually is before throwing that out there as a logical fallacy I'm guilty of.
We're all guilty of logical fallacies from time to time, but this isn't an instance where I'm attacking a straw man. |
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This is just funny. I'm trying not to insult you, because I like you...And I also didn't know shit about kids even though I have a graduate level education and have taken courses on psychology and child development.. But EVERYTHING is a big deal to a 3 year old....Believe me , on the list of big deals...not getting a cookie, losing a toy, not being able to put a lego thingy together, not having a banana in the morning..... These all rank somewhere on the list right around getting swatted getting a 'sting'.... If we did everything based on what was 'a big deal' to the kids and not what was right , we would live in a disconnected society where kids were rude and people were shitty....oh wait...
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Then you 'proved' how beating was bad. I never said I was in favor of beating/abusing children. Thats called a straw man, because you exaggerated and misrepresented my argument - since I am NOT in favor of "beating" children. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
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I realize words have meaning, but come on. This is the internet, not a court room. |
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