It's been a long time coming. Adiós.

[OnTheWarpath15]

It's time for me to bow out. It's been almost 10 years, and I'm tired.

Tired of the false narratives. Tired of people arguing the poster instead of the post. Tired of discussing football with people who favor excuses over evidence. Tired of wasting time talking about an organization that hasn't won a playoff game in the lifetime of a college senior. Tired of watching other great posters leaving entirely or posting less, weakening the Football IQ this place was known for 5-10 years ago.

I know posting a thread instead of just walking away will open the door for many to take their cheap shots - we all know who they are - and if you don't, just wait. They'll show themselves. Those of you that know me privately know this has been building for a long time.

With all that said, I'll say what I've always said: This team has talent, but will continually fall short as long as they keep thinking you can win in the postseason consistently with average QB play. You don't put enough pressure on the opposing defense, and it puts too much pressure on your defense - if they don't have a near-perfect day, you lose.

Peters and Conley were great picks and should make an impact in the years to come. Should be fun to watch. (What? According to some, I NEVER say anything positive - just another false narrative) While I doubt he'll get his shot, I'd like to see if Murray can be that franchise guy, or if he fell for reasons other than what people here assume - namely, his height and injury history. Hopefully they get Houston signed long-term, because if they don't they are in deep, deep shit. The defense tends to carry this team, and Houston is the most important cog in said defense.

I've made a lot of great friends here that are still friends to this day, and will continue to be. This place was awesome when it was more community based - when there would be gatherings, tailgates, etc. Now, it's littered with trolls that take advantage of the anonymity of the internet and would never show their face in public. That attitude has weakened this place considerably, IMHO.

For those of you I call a friend, we'll be in touch. If anyone that isn't already a friend privately or on Facebook/Twitter wants to continue to keep in touch, I'll keep my PM's open for a week or so.

Thanks, Kyle. It was fun for a while. Queue the "well, bye/sour grapes" posts in 3...2...1.

[SAUTO]

Eli Manning won with a not so good oline and his wrs haven't done much since moving on

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Where here did you name SOME names?


like I said you moved the goal posts.

Typical.

why would I name names when I am asking YOU or OTHERS to name names?

If I had a list of QB names that excel under bottom 10 OLs and WRs... I would list them.

Again, the gentleman stated this:

Originally Posted by HemiEd
He is just not strong enough to overcome shortcomings in those areas like the true franchise QB that many of us would like to see them at least try and take a chance on.

.. and I asked who those franchise QBs could be...

So, this is why I wait for a list of them. You have someone to add.. or not?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Eli Manning won with a not so good oline and his wrs haven't done much since moving on

Got any specifics? OL and WR.. bottom 10? years?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

why would I name names when I am asking YOU or OTHERS to name names?

If I had a list of QB names that excel under bottom 10 OLs and WRs... I would list them.

Again, the gentleman stated this:



.. and I asked who those franchise QBs could be...

So, this is why I wait for a list of them. You have someone to add.. or not?

I said it. You didn't ask for a ****ing list.

You are a disingenuous asshat

[Al Bundy]

So... did this guy leave because he couldn't hardly bare the thought of the Chiefs winning with Alex Smith as the QB?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Got any specifics? OL and WR.. bottom 10? years?

Whose rankings should we use?


Yours?


you aren't worth the time

[SAUTO]

You asked which qbs have done it and then want to throw out the ones who have because they are franchise qbs.


That's a real fair discussion

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

what year(s)?

As much as he bitched about his line, I'd say all of them.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Whose rankings should we use?


Yours?


you aren't worth the time

tap-out accepted... When you can not reasonably answer, sure, insults and OMGzLOL will follow. Well done.

.. and just for your knowledge, Eli put up Alex-like numbers (or less, talking Alex post 2011)throughout almost all of his years.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

tap-out accepted... When you can not reasonably answer, sure, insults and OMGzLOL will follow. Well done.

.. and just for your knowledge, Eli put up Alex-like numbers (or l.ess, talking Alex post 2011)throughout almost all of his years.

And won super bowls with a sub par line and wrs


No tapping out here, its frustrating to say the same thing over and over and answer the questions correctly only to have the questions changed later

[SAUTO]

And then to say something about Alex's stats but throw out the first half of his career...


Typical coming from you

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Beat him with Discipline Stick.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

And won super bowls with a sub par line and west.


No tapping out here, its frustrating to say the same thing over and over and answer the questions correctly only to have the questions changed later

The question has never changed. Read back a few posts regarding this. Everything was clear. It's just when I ask for specifics, I get... uh, oh, well, uh... Tom Brady!!!! and uh well... uhm... hey screw you!!!

So the list of QBs that have been clearly better than Alex while having a bottom 10 OL and WR group is..

Name the true franchise QBs that have overcome a bottom 10 OL and WR corps, please.

1. *Tom Brady (asterisk for lord only knows what cheating)

and....

2.
3.
4.
????

[SAUTO]

Lol. I named two. You just want to dispute it.

Eli had a shit o line and his wrs haven't done anything since moving on.

That's a fact. But he won a super bowl, actually two.

Tom Brady had done it

Its not my fault you want a list of ten, maybe you should be more clear in your questions.

[Al Bundy]

Ok.....