Life Forced Vaccinations are on the way. - Page 31

BIG_DADDY · 11:03 AM

After failing miserably across the country even with all the endless campaign contributions, Big Pharm have their eye’s set on the People’s Republic of California where it is business as usual even as 3 senators are being charged with criminal misconduct. As California goes so does the rest of the country, right? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/04/us...dals.html?_r=0

California has two proposals right now SB277 mandatory vaccination for all kids in school. SB792 mandatory vaccines for all day care facilities and providers. I have been to every hearing on SB277 open to the public and one on 4/29 on SB792. Some of the teeth of bill SB277 are currently being pulled due to legal concerns. Personal exemptions will be honored until that student goes to another school. Over 2k people overtook the capitol 4th floor protesting. This received a mainstream media blackout. On that note I would like to clear up some deceptions and outright lies. The media is dividing society by labeling pro-vaxxers and non-vaxxers or anti-vaxxers. You probably think the latter do not do vaccines, right? Wrong, opt out of a single dose of our ridiculous schedule and that is what you are labeled which would be almost everyone in this forum unless you one of the unfortunate kids who are on the lab rat 69 doses in 17 vaccine schedule by 18yrs.
Next I got called to the mat by Dane who insists the affluent in high end private schools are all vaccinated. PBE’s are a personal belief exemption. Plug in any high end school right here and see for yourself. I would suggest starting with the Waldorf School. http://ww2.kqed.org/stateofhealth/20...l-online/#find

So let me get this straight, people who can afford the very best doctors have the highest PBE’s? Don’t doctors, scientists and health care workers who all see the damage that is caused by vaccines have some of the highest PBE rates? Absolutely

http://vaccinefactcheck.org/2015/03/...-vaccinations/
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...fused-vaccine/
http://www.namv.org/

Do your own due diligence in this area, you will be shocked. Everything I have told you about the Sens Foundation, the Buck Institute and friends in the industry is absolutely true. It is hard to come out and be really vocal publicly when you are up against a 711 Billion Dollar behemoth dead set on destroying your career if you cross them.
Next, Fish said there is no $$$ in vaccines, once again you are being deceived. http://www.4-traders.com/news/Global...ket--20314140/
Back on topic, this is pretty much what is going on nationally and locally. http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/an...ine%20yes8.htm

I will add additional links of interest throughout this thread.

117 Vaccine injuries and deaths in three months alone
http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/march-...es-and-deaths/
Top Lobbying Industries
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/to...e=i&showYear=a
Sharyl Attkisson CBS Emmy award winning 21 year investigative journalist.
https://sharylattkisson.com/what-the...utism-studies/
Science for Sale
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mar..._b_747325.html

Tombstone RJ · 07-05-2015, 02:34 PM

Read thread title, thought "forced vacations coming? Great!" then read again. Sad face.

**Gonzo** · 09-21-2015, 10:17 PM

I've always tried not to rock the boat because a lot of people blindly become negative and hostile towards people that question the medical community. "****ing Anti-vaxers trying to spread measles" and stupid, moronic shit like that.
I believe a lot of hat attitude comes from ignorance on the subject or maybe fear that maybe, just maybe there are some crooked folks at big pharma.
Let me tell you all a story which I've shared before...

My son was a perfectly normal little boy from age 0 to 17.5 months. Inquisitive, happy, loud and playful. He would cry at night and he ate whatever Lumpy and I put in front of him.
We took him into the docs office for his 18 Month checkup and his MMR, (the big one) vaccination.
Afterwards he became very sick. Almost a week-long fever, lethargic, hardly an appetite and cranky.
A few weeks later he seemed fine except distant. Healthy yet quiet. He'd stare and a little light projector/soother for hours. He would not eat anything with texture, he reverted back to baby food. He stopped talking all together. He was not the same.
Why? You tell me.
Do you know what is in that vaccine you gave your child?
How about this:
Egg
Mercury
Formaldehyde
Heavy metals

All of these ingredients are much more toxic to young children because they haven't formed a thick blood/brain barrier yet so all these chemicals go straight to the brain.
Now you ask... "Well, why didn't it effect kids when we were growing up?"
Simple...
The MMR shot was not developed when we were young. If you look at the statistics, (which I have) the percentage of kids with autism has steadily increased with the Integration of that one particular vaccine.
Parents, please educate yourselves. Don't poison your child or at least get all the info you can beforehand.
I am in no way anti-vaccine. They've saved millions. I am totally against the forced MMR vaccine.
By the way, an investigation is about to be launched into the destruction of research findings regarding this very vaccine. It was NOT tested the mandatory length of time because the FDA will allow for emergency implementation of vaccines. Also, Vaccines are the only medical treatment forced upon the public and the only treatment that cannot have any malpractice suits filed against it due to government protection.
Watch the below video please.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c454642...easearch-fraud

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-21-2015, 10:26 PM

Ive got two kids,

ages 3 years, and 2 months (the baby)

I would caution people also to do research...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiome...le_for_concern

Every choice in life has risks. The people who claim otherwise are foolish....

Personally I chose to take the majority view and 'risk' getting my kids vaccinated (rather than the much worse mathematical risk to my kids and the rest of the community of going without)

Things like "autism has increased since the 1970's" proving that something is wrong with vaccines, is pretty thin....because we also have better diagnosis and treatments for all kinds of things.

At some point in life, we have to admit what we know and what we don't. If you are not a doctor, you should LISTEN to doctors and take the consensus advice, or at the very least keep your thoughts to yourself and not advise others.

Plenty of smarter people than you or I have spent their lives studying these things.......you and I aren't going to 'study the statistics' and figure anything out...

You either take the word of your doctor or find a new doctor whose style you like. Period.

Quote:

"Thus, based on this body of evidence, the committee concludes that the evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism."[2] [bold in original]

Further evidence of the scientific consensus includes the rejection of a causal link between thiomersal and autism by multiple national and international scientific and medical bodies including the American Medical Association,[48] the American Academy of Pediatrics,[49] the American College of Medical Toxicology,[50] the Canadian Paediatric Society,[51] the U.S. National Academy of Sciences,[2] the Food and Drug Administration,[5] Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,[10] the World Health Organization,[9] the Public Health Agency of Canada,[52] and the European Medicines Agency.[53]

A 2011 journal article reflects this point of view and described the vaccine-autism connection as "the most damaging medical hoax of the last 100 years".[4]

**Gonzo** · 09-21-2015, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Ive got two kids,

ages 3 years, and 2 months (the baby)

I would caution people also to do research...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiome...le_for_concern

Every choice in life has risks. The people who claim otherwise are foolish....

Personally I chose to take the majority view and 'risk' getting my kids vaccinated.

Things like "autism has increased since the 1970's" proving that something is wrong with vaccines, is pretty thin....because we also have better diagnosis and treatments for all kinds of things.

At some point in life, we have to admit what we know and what we don't. If you are not a doctor, you should LISTEN to doctors and take the consensus advice, or at the very least keep your thoughts to yourself and not advise others.

Plenty of smarter people than you or I have spent their lives studying these things.......you and I aren't going to 'study the statistics' and figure anything out...

You either take the word of your doctor or find a new doctor whose style you like. Period.

My doctor said the following...
"There's recently been some research about this vaccine causing autism, nothing's been proven though."
That's all she was legally required to say.

I do not trust anyone when it comes to my child's health. I'm smart enough to research and make the decision myself.
There wasn't nearly the info out there then... I was still quite young and took the word of the nice, young pediatrician.

**Dave Lane** · 09-21-2015, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

My doctor said the following...
"There's recently been some research about this vaccine causing autism, nothing's been proven though."
That's all she was legally required to say.

I do not trust anyone when it comes to my child's health. I'm smart enough to research and make the decision myself.
There wasn't nearly the info out there then... I was still quite young and took the word of the nice, young pediatrician.

Well glad you are on board now. Research people its what lots and lots of medical personnel do.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-21-2015, 10:35 PM

Every sibling in my family, as well as all of the ten children born to date, have all been vaccinated according to the schedule.

No one is autistic.

As a matter of fact, every child in our preschool and elementary school has been vaccinated according the schedule, and no child has been deemed autistic.

Vaccinations aren't the cause. While researchers are working diligently to find it, it's far more likely to be environmental factors along with far better diagnosis.

Brock · 09-21-2015, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

My doctor said the following...
"There's recently been some research about this vaccine causing autism, nothing's been proven though."
That's all she was legally required to say.

I do not trust anyone when it comes to my child's health. I'm smart enough to research and make the decision myself.
There wasn't nearly the info out there then... I was still quite young and took the word of the nice, young pediatrician.

I'm sorry gonzo.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-21-2015, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

My doctor said the following...
"There's recently been some research about this vaccine causing autism, nothing's been proven though."
That's all she was legally required to say.

I do not trust anyone when it comes to my child's health. I'm smart enough to research and make the decision myself.
There wasn't nearly the info out there then... I was still quite young and took the word of the nice, young pediatrician.

I guess you and your new doc are smarter than

the American Medical Association,[48] the American Academy of Pediatrics,[49] the American College of Medical Toxicology,[50] the Canadian Paediatric Society,[51] the U.S. National Academy of Sciences,[2] the Food and Drug Administration,[5] Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,[10] the World Health Organization,[9] the Public Health Agency of Canada,[52] and the European Medicines Agency.[53]...etc

so kudos to you!

I will personally take the thousands and thousands of scientists and doctors opinions in the above organizations over your opinion
As I hope would any sane person.

cosmo20002 · 09-21-2015, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

My doctor said the following...
"There's recently been some research about this vaccine causing autism, nothing's been proven though."
That's all she was legally required to say.

I do not trust anyone when it comes to my child's health. I'm smart enough to research and make the decision myself.
There wasn't nearly the info out there then... I was still quite young and took the word of the nice, young pediatrician.

No you're not.

ThaVirus · 09-21-2015, 10:44 PM

If I'd had the same experience as Gonzo I'd likely draw a similar conclusion.

I just wonder about the whole ordeal. Why is all that extra shit in vaccines? They can't just inject you with a live, weakened form of the virus?

**Gonzo** · 09-21-2015, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Ive got two kids,

ages 3 years, and 2 months (the baby)

I would caution people also to do research...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiome...le_for_concern

Every choice in life has risks. The people who claim otherwise are foolish....

Personally I chose to take the majority view and 'risk' getting my kids vaccinated (rather than the much worse mathematical risk to my kids and the rest of the community of going without)

Things like "autism has increased since the 1970's" proving that something is wrong with vaccines, is pretty thin....because we also have better diagnosis and treatments for all kinds of things.

At some point in life, we have to admit what we know and what we don't. If you are not a doctor, you should LISTEN to doctors and take the consensus advice, or at the very least keep your thoughts to yourself and not advise others.

Plenty of smarter people than you or I have spent their lives studying these things.......you and I aren't going to 'study the statistics' and figure anything out...

You either take the word of your doctor or find a new doctor whose style you like. Period.

I rebut your link with some of my own, sir...

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...ssman-reveals/

http://youtu.be/LUduiwgHMQs

I highly recommend you check out that channel.

http://www.m.webmd.com/children/feat...nked-to-autism

http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/the...ing-the-truth/

Well, I can post thousands of links saying the same things and I have a feeling the truth will eventually come out.
Everyone else can post links to what "the medical community" has to say. That's fine too.
I just want parents to become aware and make the decision you think is best.

Pm me should you want more info.

**BigRedChief** · 09-21-2015, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

I've always tried not to rock the boat because a lot of people blindly become negative and hostile towards people that question the medical community. "****ing Anti-vaxers trying to spread measles" and stupid, moronic shit like that.
I believe a lot of hat attitude comes from ignorance on the subject or maybe fear that maybe, just maybe there are some crooked folks at big pharma.
Let me tell you all a story which I've shared before...

My son was a perfectly normal little boy from age 0 to 17.5 months. Inquisitive, happy, loud and playful. He would cry at night and he ate whatever Lumpy and I put in front of him.
We took him into the docs office for his 18 Month checkup and his MMR, (the big one) vaccination.
Afterwards he became very sick. Almost a week-long fever, lethargic, hardly an appetite and cranky.
A few weeks later he seemed fine except distant. Healthy yet quiet. He'd stare and a little light projector/soother for hours. He would not eat anything with texture, he reverted back to baby food. He stopped talking all together. He was not the same.
Why? You tell me.
Do you know what is in that vaccine you gave your child?
How about this:
Egg
Mercury
Formaldehyde
Heavy metals

All of these ingredients are much more toxic to young children because they haven't formed a thick blood/brain barrier yet so all these chemicals go straight to the brain.
Now you ask... "Well, why didn't it effect kids when we were growing up?"
Simple...
The MMR shot was not developed when we were young. If you look at the statistics, (which I have) the percentage of kids with autism has steadily increased with the Integration of that one particular vaccine.
Parents, please educate yourselves. Don't poison your child or at least get all the info you can beforehand.
I am in no way anti-vaccine. They've saved millions. I am totally against the forced MMR vaccine.
By the way, an investigation is about to be launched into the destruction of research findings regarding this very vaccine. It was NOT tested the mandatory length of time because the FDA will allow for emergency implementation of vaccines. Also, Vaccines are the only medical treatment forced upon the public and the only treatment that cannot have any malpractice suits filed against it due to government protection.
Watch the below video please.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c454642...easearch-fraud

I have no clue how you feel or how I would react to my son having the same thing happen to him. I can't even think I would be able to cope.

Vaccines have saved literally millions of lives since they became mandatory. They have value to society.

What happened to your and Lumpys son when it didn't happen to millions of others should be investigated. Is there an issue with them being too close to each other? High dosage? The MMR itself?

But, an investigation and the public's full backing of an investigation independent of the FDA will never happen if the goal is stop mandatory vaccinations. There has to be some middle ground.

**Gonzo** · 09-21-2015, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

No you're not.

Your opinion... Sheeple.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-21-2015, 10:47 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks

Quote:

Autism Speaks is an autism advocacy organization in the United States that sponsors autism research and conducts awareness and outreach activities aimed at families, governments, and the public.[1] It was founded in February 2005 by Bob Wright, vice chairman of General Electric, and by his wife Suzanne, a year after their grandson Christian was diagnosed with autism.[2]

Autism Speaks is an autism organization that, along with its predecessor organizations, has been a source of funding directed towards the causes and treatment of autism spectrum disorders; it also conducts awareness and outreach activities aimed at families, governments, and the public.[1] In a 2006 press release, Autism Speaks stated as its goal "to accelerate and fund biomedical research into the causes, prevention, treatments and cure for autism spectrum disorders; to increase awareness of the disorder; and to improve the quality of life of affected individuals and their families

Autism Speaks and its predecessor organizations have raised public awareness for autism research, raised funds directly for research, and lobbied Congress to leverage the privately raised money with much greater public funds. From 1997 to 2006 their advocacy in the areas of treatment and environmental factors shifted research priorities in the U.S. from basic research to translational and clinical research, with less emphasis on the underlying biology and greater emphasis on putting what was known to practical use.[8]

Autism Speaks now takes the position that "Many studies have examined possible links between vaccination and increased prevalence of autism," but that "these studies have not found a link between vaccines and autism" and that they "strongly encourage parents to have their children vaccinated for protection against serious disease."[30]

In the past, Autism Speaks had assigned a high priority to research into the now-discredited claim that immunization is associated with an increased risk of autism. This priority has raised concerns among parents and scientific researchers, because "...funding such research, in addition to being wasteful, unduly heightens parents' concerns about the safety of immunization."[31]

Alison Singer, a senior executive of Autism Speaks, resigned in January 2009 rather than vote for committing money to new research studies into vaccination and autism. The U.S. Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee, of which Singer was a member, voted against committing the research funds; this was contrary to the Autism Speaks policy on vaccine safety research. Singer said:

"There isn't an unlimited pot of money, and every dollar spent looking where we know the answer isn't is one less dollar we have to spend where we might find new answers. The fact is that vaccines save lives; they don't cause autism."[32]

**Gonzo** · 09-21-2015, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I have no clue how you feel or how I would react to my son having the same thing happen to him. I can't even think I would be able to cope.

Vaccines have saved literally millions of lives since they became mandatory. They have value to society.

What happened to your and Lumpys son when it didn't happen to millions of others should be investigated. Is there an issue with them being too close to each other? High dosage? The MMR itself?

But, an investigation and the public's full backing of an investigation independent of the FDA will never happen if the goal is stop mandatory vaccinations. There has to be some middle ground.

From what I've read... For two years now?
It's full of mercury. That can absolutely have something to do with it.

I 100% support vaccinations. I do not support the MMR shot. Why is it necessary to have mercury in it? Why do babies have to have so many vaccinations at once?
Do some digging. Congress is... FINALLY

05-08-2015, 10:57 AM
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $4918410	Forced Vaccinations are on the way. After failing miserably across the country even with all the endless campaign contributions, Big Pharm have their eye’s set on the People’s Republic of California where it is business as usual even as 3 senators are being charged with criminal misconduct. As California goes so does the rest of the country, right? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/04/us...dals.html?_r=0 California has two proposals right now SB277 mandatory vaccination for all kids in school. SB792 mandatory vaccines for all day care facilities and providers. I have been to every hearing on SB277 open to the public and one on 4/29 on SB792. Some of the teeth of bill SB277 are currently being pulled due to legal concerns. Personal exemptions will be honored until that student goes to another school. Over 2k people overtook the capitol 4th floor protesting. This received a mainstream media blackout. On that note I would like to clear up some deceptions and outright lies. The media is dividing society by labeling pro-vaxxers and non-vaxxers or anti-vaxxers. You probably think the latter do not do vaccines, right? Wrong, opt out of a single dose of our ridiculous schedule and that is what you are labeled which would be almost everyone in this forum unless you one of the unfortunate kids who are on the lab rat 69 doses in 17 vaccine schedule by 18yrs. Next I got called to the mat by Dane who insists the affluent in high end private schools are all vaccinated. PBE’s are a personal belief exemption. Plug in any high end school right here and see for yourself. I would suggest starting with the Waldorf School. http://ww2.kqed.org/stateofhealth/20...l-online/#find So let me get this straight, people who can afford the very best doctors have the highest PBE’s? Don’t doctors, scientists and health care workers who all see the damage that is caused by vaccines have some of the highest PBE rates? Absolutely http://vaccinefactcheck.org/2015/03/...-vaccinations/ https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...fused-vaccine/ http://www.namv.org/ Do your own due diligence in this area, you will be shocked. Everything I have told you about the Sens Foundation, the Buck Institute and friends in the industry is absolutely true. It is hard to come out and be really vocal publicly when you are up against a 711 Billion Dollar behemoth dead set on destroying your career if you cross them. Next, Fish said there is no $$$ in vaccines, once again you are being deceived. http://www.4-traders.com/news/Global...ket--20314140/ Back on topic, this is pretty much what is going on nationally and locally. http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/an...ine%20yes8.htm I will add additional links of interest throughout this thread. 117 Vaccine injuries and deaths in three months alone http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/march-...es-and-deaths/ Top Lobbying Industries https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/to...e=i&showYear=a Sharyl Attkisson CBS Emmy award winning 21 year investigative journalist. https://sharylattkisson.com/what-the...utism-studies/ Science for Sale http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mar..._b_747325.html Last edited by BIG_DADDY; 05-08-2015 at 11:03 AM..
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DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Every sibling in my family, as well as all of the ten children born to date, have all been vaccinated according to the schedule. No one is autistic. As a matter of fact, every child in our preschool and elementary school has been vaccinated according the schedule, and no child has been deemed autistic. Vaccinations aren't the cause. While researchers are working diligently to find it, it's far more likely to be environmental factors along with far better diagnosis.
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ThaVirus You gotta kill a few people Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $1672369	If I'd had the same experience as Gonzo I'd likely draw a similar conclusion. I just wonder about the whole ordeal. Why is all that extra shit in vaccines? They can't just inject you with a live, weakened form of the virus?
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