The hold that took away our 2 point conversion

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by cdcox

It was a hold that usually isn't called 9 times out of 10.

Agreed




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[cyborgtable]

Originally Posted by -King-

It was a hold.
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It really wasn't, the rules state that if the defender does a rip move your arm naturally goes there so it isn't a hold.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment...nique_negates/

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by cyborgtable

It really wasn't, the rules state that if the defender does a rip move your arm naturally goes there so it isn't a hold.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment...nique_negates/

Interesting. So THAT'S the out they had to **** Hali all those years! Only the Chiefs rip!

Those ass-****ers!

[kcpasco]

It wasn't a penalty

[KranzDictum]

Originally Posted by kcpasco

It wasn't a penalty

It was a hold, arm barred him and took him to the ground and bent him back, it was a foul. I will say that most times in those situations they don't call it. Have seen Von get taken down like that a lot and it won't get called.

The bigger play that hurt was the drop by "gronk" and alex missing at least 2 deep TD passes.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by KranzDictum

It was a hold, arm barred him and took him to the ground and bent him back, it was a foul. I will say that most times in those situations they don't call it. Have seen Von get taken down like that a lot and it won't get called.

If the NFL usually doesn't call it -- and it doesn't -- it is total BS to call it in that situation.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Must have been why they also took the two pointer off the board against the Chiefs in Denver, or why they called back Berry's 2 pt return against Atlanta, or his TD return against Carolina.

Refs are always looking for ways to **** the Chiefs, which is why they had 109 penalties called against them, and 109 for them.

FTR, the Cowboys had 90 penalties called in benefit of them, and the three teams that were beneficiaries of the most penalty calls were the perennial referee favorites Detroit, Tennessee, and Houston.

[mr. tegu]

Maybe Fisher shouldn't have let himself get beat instantaneously.

[Opoponax]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Maybe Fisher shouldn't have let himself get beat instantaneously.

Yeah, that's sure what it looked like. It was a hold, no doubt about it. The Steelers line got away with some shit, no doubt about that either.

But 16 points against the Steelers D after they were held to 6 field goals? That's why they went one and done.

[Chiefnj2]

I don't have a problem with the call, if they call it consistently.
If you leave the game in the hands of the officials, be prepared to bend over and grab your ankles.

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I don't have a problem with the call, if they call it consistently.

Basically this.
They call it so irregularly that for them to call it on the most important play of the game is pure bullshit.

[RINGLEADER]

It could be called a hold. Seen worst never called.

Reminds me of the 2003 Tony Gonzalez PI call.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

It could be called a hold. Seen worst never called.

Reminds me of the 2003 Tony Gonzalez PI call.

It reminds me of the Dave Szott holding call against Miami in the playoffs.

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-01-...fourth-quarter

The Chiefs went to work after the kickoff from their 22 and made it to the Miami 26 at the two-minute warning. On first down, Okoye plowed up the middle for 12 additional yards, but the play was nullified by a holding call on Kansas City guard David Szott.

"Imagine that, the only holding penalty called in the game," Lowery said. "Isn't that interesting."

Pushed back to the 37, the Chiefs gained only three more yards before calling on Lowery for the game-deciding kick.

"You see the ball falling short and you see the season just going away from you," Hackett, said. "It's too bad. . . . I think this team deserves more than what we reached."

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

It reminds me of the Dave Szott holding call against Miami in the playoffs.

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-01-...fourth-quarter

The Chiefs went to work after the kickoff from their 22 and made it to the Miami 26 at the two-minute warning. On first down, Okoye plowed up the middle for 12 additional yards, but the play was nullified by a holding call on Kansas City guard David Szott.

"Imagine that, the only holding penalty called in the game," Lowery said. "Isn't that interesting."

Pushed back to the 37, the Chiefs gained only three more yards before calling on Lowery for the game-deciding kick.

"You see the ball falling short and you see the season just going away from you," Hackett, said. "It's too bad. . . . I think this team deserves more than what we reached."

Even worse was the phantom hold against Manusky in 1997

[cdcox]

If Clarkbar cared, he would gather 200 pictures of Tamba Hali getting the same type of block with no holding being and post them in a continuous twitter feed over the next week. But $, so he won't. I watched 50% less football this year than last year. Mostly Chiefs games. Seriously questioning my sanity for continuing to follow the NFL at all.