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Will Shields 100 84.03%
Tony Dungy 10 8.40%
Tim Brown 51 42.86%
Terrell Davis 11 9.24%
Orlando Pace 53 44.54%
Kurt Warner 57 47.90%
Junior Seau 58 48.74%
Marvin Harrison 37 31.09%
Morten Andersen 23 19.33%
Kevin Greene 29 24.37%
John Lynch 9 7.56%
Jimmy Johnson 16 13.45%
Jerome Bettis 16 13.45%
Don Coryell 41 34.45%
Charles Haley 37 31.09%
Senior Candidate - Mick Tingelhoff 11 9.24%
I'm not voting for anybody until Deron Cherry and Otis Taylor get in. 8 6.72%
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Old 01-15-2015, 01:37 PM  
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2015 Pro Football Hall of Fame Finalists
I don't think we've discussed this yet, so here you go. Up to five of these guys (plus the one senior candidate) can go in. You make the vote when the poll goes up and I release white smoke from the chimney.

The semifinalist list is here if you want to see who got snubbed, which is mostly Albert Lewis, Everson Walls, Clay Matthews, Joe Jacoby, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, and Randall Cunningham: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...php?p=10938513


Edit: Two other finalists weren't in the poll because the profootballhof listed them separately. Bill Polian and Ron Wolf are also finalists if you want to vote for them as write-ins.
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Old 01-15-2015, 05:11 PM   #31
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I'm compeltely befuddled that anyone doesn't think Seau is a sure fire, no question, no doubt first ballot HOFer.

19 year career, MANY first team All Pros, many Pro Bowls, starter on 1990s All Decade team, Defensive POY. It's not a resume many can match.
I'll admit that I'm not a fan of his style and am probably tainted a bit by that. I'm not saying that he wasn't good or even that he doesn't deserve to be in, but I just think that his legend was bigger than his production, primarily because he called attention to himself a lot.

If you look at hard core production, his is certainly high, but let's compare him to Clay Matthews (senior - the Browns linebacker). Matthews has been eligible much longer, and I think he played on pretty comparable defenses. Matthews made it to the semifinals this year, but is not a finalist.

Clay Matthews -

19 seasons, 15 where he started 13+ games (he played in 2 strike-shortened seasons)
248 starts
1,561 tackles
69.5 sacks
16 interceptions
27 forced fumbles
Top three years in tackles: 128, 126, 113
Top three years in sacks: 12, 9, 6.5


Junior Seau

20 seasons, 14 where he started 12+ games
234 starts
1,522 tackles
47 sacks
18 interceptions
11 forced fumbles
Top three years in tackles: 129, 129, 124
Top three years in sacks: 7, 7, 7


I don't understand why Seau is considered a first-ballot guy while Matthews is not even a finalist.

One might point out what Seau was a 12-time pro bowler and 6-time all pro, while Matthews only made 4 pro bowls. But that's a lot about reputation. If you look at Seau's first five years in the league, here are his stats:

78 starts, 569 tackles, 18 sacks, 4 int, 3 forced fumbles. He was named all-pro three times and went to four pro bowls

In that same five-year period from 1990 through 1994, here are Clay Matthews' stats:

77 starts, 447 tackles, 25.5 sacks, 3 int, 11 forced fumbles. He didn't make a single pro bowl during that period.

Now, Seau had a lot more tackles, so I'll give him that. But Matthews was 38 years old at the end of this five-year period, so we're comparing Seau's peak years against Matthews' end-of-career years. Seau was piling up accolades when he was making fewer big plays.

Again, I'm not saying no to Seau, but I just think he was overhyped a lot, which produced a lot of pro bowls compared to other players with similar production.
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As I write this, it says 50 people have voted.
But Will Shields only has 41 votes.
9 people need to go ahead and stab themselves in the face.
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4 votes for Dungy?? Really??? The man shouldn't even be a finalist!! Who on Chiefsplanet actually voted for him???
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Tony Dungy? Why?
It's the question everybody is asking. It's the biggest mystery of 2015 so far.

However, wikipedia offers a very cool fact about Tony Dungy. He is the most recent player who has both made an interception and thrown an interception in the same game. He was a safety who came in as the emergency quarterback for the Steelers in 1978. (I also didn't know he was part of the Steel Curtain.)
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If Tony dungy gets in, any coach that has won a super bowl needs to get in. I'm fine with Jimmy Johnson, but No way dungy deserves it
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4 votes for Dungy?? Really??? The man shouldn't even be a finalist!! Who on Chiefsplanet actually voted for him???
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Does the fact that Jimmy Johnson won his SB's when there was no salary cap hurt his chances?

I think he's a good coach, but it was easier to put together a juggernaut roster in those days.
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Personally, I think this is one of the weakest finalist classes I've ever seen.
Do not understand this. Every person on that list has a legit shot.

Well, Dungy should never be in the HOF.
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Does the fact that Jimmy Johnson won his SB's when there was no salary cap hurt his chances?

I think he's a good coach, but it was easier to put together a juggernaut roster in those days.

I guess it could be a factor, but every other coach in the HoF now had the same situation. I guess having a rich owner is unavoidable in some cases.
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