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Old 01-17-2015, 11:35 AM   #1
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Wins and or losses isn't a justifiable way to rate qb play.

If that's the only thing you're basing this off of, no, he's not that guy anymore
You upgrade just two positions on this offensive line and give this team just one WR who can break off his foot in a defenses ass when coming off the line and hitting his breaks, you will see that guy.

Three position upgrades and this team is in the Super Bowl.
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:56 AM   #2
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You upgrade just two positions on this offensive line and give this team just one WR who can break off his foot in a defenses ass when coming off the line and hitting his breaks, you will see that guy.

Three position upgrades and this team is in the Super Bowl.
You know what? I've been "seeing that guy" for decades now.

**** that guy.
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:25 AM   #3
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The Chiefs are just ****ing pussies.

It is what it is.

Tell me history says different.
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:31 AM   #4
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I wish he was that guy. We need more gunslinger
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:40 AM   #5
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The chiefs didn't have a bad year.

Alex smith didn't have a bad year. He had his normal year which proved to not be good enough.
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:46 AM   #6
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A good quarterback in a pass first offense with a QB guru should never end up with the lowest rated passing game in the NFL.

Lets not act as if the skill position players are "worst in the NFL"

Bowe is a good receiver
Kelce is a top 5 tight end
Wilson and Thomas offer the offense lots of speed and playmaking ability.
Charles and Davis are probably the best running back duo in the NFL.

Teams stacked the box to shut down the run and flood the short zones to eliminate YAC and were literally giving us the deep routes and Alex didn't know what to do.

So, he ended with the leagues worst passing attack and set and NFL record for futility in an era where the rules are slanted to make it easier to throw the ball.
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Old 01-17-2015, 12:02 PM   #7
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A good quarterback in a pass first offense with a QB guru should never end up with the lowest rated passing game in the NFL.

Lets not act as if the skill position players are "worst in the NFL"

Bowe is a good receiver
Kelce is a top 5 tight end
Wilson and Thomas offer the offense lots of speed and playmaking ability.
Charles and Davis are probably the best running back duo in the NFL.

Teams stacked the box to shut down the run and flood the short zones to eliminate YAC and were literally giving us the deep routes and Alex didn't know what to do.

So, he ended with the leagues worst passing attack and set and NFL record for futility in an era where the rules are slanted to make it easier to throw the ball.
What happened Boss? Did your Cheetos eating pals make fun of you 'cause your Madden team didn't put up passing TD's?

Dwayne Bowe is a good receiver in the right system. He's mediocre at best in this system because he runs shit routes, has bad hands and doesn't know where he's at on the field. Right now, he's the single biggest detriment to this team in terms of getting a better guy on the field and tying up massive monetary resources that could be better allocated.

Kelce has the potential to be a Top 3 TE in the NFL. Right now, he's lazy with his technique and lacks serious focus.

Wilson and Thomas are rookies. Thomas is too light in the ass to be anything other than a PR/KR and gadget offensive guy unless he figures out how to run routes like Jackson or Beckham. Wilson is a track guy from a small school. He didn't show dick last season.

Like I said, shit WR's and shit/young OL. However...

9-7 against the hardest schedule in the NFL in 2014 with wins over the two best teams in each division.

That's progress, significant progress, against what this team was and what it accomplished in a short two seasons ago.
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:57 AM   #8
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If Andy Reid really considered getting rid of Alex Smith he wouldn't have signed him to that contract, nor would he have sought out offensive players who do almost all of their damage horizontally.

He knows Smith's limitations and has actively embraced them. He's here until 2018 at the earliest.
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Old 01-17-2015, 12:07 PM   #9
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If Andy Reid really considered getting rid of Alex Smith he wouldn't have signed him to that contract, nor would he have sought out offensive players who do almost all of their damage horizontally.

He knows Smith's limitations and has actively embraced them. He's here until 2018 at the earliest.
They tried to sign Desean Jackson and Emmanuel Sanders after signing Donnie Avery the year before.

They also signed Wilson who is a speed burner, too...as is Thomas.

I wish I knew how to move a video from my genie to the computer so I could play the video from after the hey last year with Andy talking about Alex and throwing deep and how important it is to his ability to keep his job as a starting NFL quarterback.

Iirc it's either the pregame or during halftime.
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They tried to sign Desean Jackson and Emmanuel Sanders after signing Donnie Avery the year before.

They also signed Wilson who is a speed burner, too...as is Thomas.

I wish I knew how to move a video from my genie to the computer so I could play the video from after the hey last year with Andy talking about Alex and throwing deep and how important it is to his ability to keep his job as a starting NFL quarterback.

Iirc it's either the pregame or during halftime.
I'm not really very interested in what Andy Reid says. I'm far more interested in what he does.

I seem to remember a murderer being part of the "Right 53." Talk is ****ing cheap.
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Old 01-17-2015, 12:11 PM   #11
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Smith is a scared, heaping bag of dicks. Defending him at this point is outright comical.
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Alex is what he is.

There's no "fixing" anything.

You either build around him (huge YAC guys) or move on...
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Well, we can all agree on this - 2015 is the third year for Alex in this system. If he doesn't show marked improvement this coming season along with winning in the playoffs, it cannot be argued that this trade was a waste of resources and time and we are worse off for making the trade in the first place.
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