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03-12-2014, 09:03 AM | #166 | |
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I dislike Dio Sabbath immensely. I like Dio's solo stuff better. Early Sabbath was essentially stoner rock, which is right up my alley. |
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I don't hang up as much about genres. Actually I can't stand people who try to define music entirely by genre, as it's attempting to put art into a neat little box. It shouldn't work that way. Again, I like Pantera. I don't listen to it because that shit seriously got old for me over a decade ago. They are far from being pure 'thrash' metal, so comparing them to bands like that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. |
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03-12-2014, 10:26 AM | #169 |
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I have to agree with you on Dio Sabbath, although people like what they like and I'm OK with that.
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03-12-2014, 10:34 AM | #170 |
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Yeah, generally not a fan of Dio.
In many ways, I dislike pure heavy metal. I personally find much of their imagery silly moreso than 'dark' and their voices, in spite of being outstanding in terms of range, make my ears bleed. Much respect their talent and influence, but I don't care to listen to it. Dio was the heavy metal prototype singer, so if you're into that type of singing, he's a legend. As I said, I'm more into slow jammy bands or more elaborate progressive rock. Blues rock. Stuff like that. Given my tastes, it makes perfect sense. |
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And for the record, I personally feel like Sabbath, while heavier and darker, was still a heavy blues band like Zeppelin and others during the 70s. A lot BETTER IMO, but still a British blues band at the core. They weren't a "metal" band until Ronnie arrived.
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It was tuned down, slowed down, and of course Ozzie had unique imagery in his vocals... but yeah that's pretty much on point. They doomed it up. That's why I love 'em. |
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But like I said, I like a lot of classical music and those types of arrangements. Tony Iommi said it best: "Dio would sing across the riff, whereas Ozzy would follow the riff, like in "Iron Man". Ronnie came in and gave us another angle on writing." |
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You like slow, plodding, and powerful. This is where it's at:
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03-12-2014, 02:33 PM | #176 | |
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It's just that I find what he does annoying. It's the pitch of his voice... that whole style of singing. I can't stand it. I know it's hard and I know they're hitting high notes and their voice is an instrument and part of the arrangement. It's simply that it annoys the ever lovin' hell out of me. To the guys in Sabbath (except Geezer) simply wanted a better singer than Ozzy. He was, for the most part, uninvolved in the entire process. I mean Geezer wrote the lyrics. Ozzie just did the vocal melodies. Ozzie had no input on the song structure or arrangement, whereas Ronnie did. Ronnie was far more talented than Ozzy, but even knowing that his voice is still annoying as hell to me. |
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It doesn't make a lot of sense to me either, but YOU WERE THE ONE WHO QUESTIONED MY PHRASING AND ALSO INVITED CROSS-GENRE COMPARISON IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN YOU ACCUSED ME OF BEING UNABLE TO APPRECIATE ROCK & ROLL so I was just working with what you gave me.
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The fact that you don't like it, or don't appreciate it, does not in and of itself make it garbage. You are not an authority on what is or is not good music no matter how much of it you listen to. That is the ONLY point I was making. The same thing applies to movies and TV by the way. Last edited by WhiteWhale; 03-12-2014 at 08:24 PM.. |
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03-12-2014, 08:19 PM | #180 | |
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Again man, it's personal taste. I'm sure if I quizzed you enough you'd say something that made no sense to me too. It's weird like that. Last edited by WhiteWhale; 03-12-2014 at 08:35 PM.. |
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