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1 - Homer | 7 | 2.44% | |
2 - Optimist | 85 | 29.62% | |
3 - Balanced | 116 | 40.42% | |
4 - Pessimist | 67 | 23.34% | |
5 - Naysayer | 8 | 2.79% | |
Generic Alternate Zresponse | 4 | 1.39% | |
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05-03-2013, 09:30 AM | |
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Let's talk about "true fans"
Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made.
The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days: 1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this. 2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel. 3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out. 4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do. 5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up. Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success. Discus. Last edited by DaFace; 05-03-2013 at 09:37 AM.. |
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08-06-2013, 03:29 PM | #376 |
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So 10 wins is the Chiefs FLOOR.
But 11 wins is the Broncos CEILING. Dane has gone full reerun this offseason. Making last offseason look like he was a pessimist.
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What is the Chiefs ceiling?
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13 wins? 14 wins?
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I doubt the second one because his arm seemed to lose some serious velocity in the last few games of the season, especially in the playoffs. I don't see how that improves, nor do I think that injury lets him throw the ball with the velocity he once did, and to be honest, he never had an overpowering arm or threw a super tight spiral.
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The Broncos need to hope that Manning is Montana '93 not Montana '94. Or Favre '09 instead of Favre '10. I just think that is a lot of ask.
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Please tell us what the Chiefs ceiling is. I want to hear this. Your predictions have been hilarious the last two offseasons.
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I agree that velocity and perfect spirals have never been part of his success, so I'm not really sure why the possibility of losing some of those aspects would mean he couldn't be dominant again. Obviously training camp reports should be taken with a grain of salt, but apparently Manning looks like he's in better shape and is throwing better than he was last year at this point. |
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Reports from training camp are that Manning's arm strength is better than it was last year. I think Denver will win 12 or 13 games, easily, and sweep the Chiefs.
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