Chiefs better get a New DB fast. Denver and Wes ?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Yeah, Idiots are sitting here saying Wes Welker isn't one of the best receivers of all time, or THE SINGLE best slot receiver to ever play the game.

Oh now you're just doubling down on stupid. Of all time? **** me - Wes Welker isn't one of the top 50 WRs to play this game. Probably not one of the top 100. There are 15 guys in the league better than him right now and at least 1 on his own team.

He's an undersized product of a pass-happy system that feeds him passes in short (of which he drops a slightly above average amount).

Tom Brady just built himself another legend. Wes Welker is the WR version of Scott ***** - nothing more. He was smart to play with Peyton where he won't be completely unmasked.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Oh now you're just doubling down on stupid. Of all time? **** me - Wes Welker isn't one of the top 50 WRs to play this game. Probably not one of the top 100. There are 15 guys in the league better than him right now and at least 1 on his own team.

He's an undersized product of a pass-happy system that feeds him passes in short (of which he drops a slightly above average amount).

Tom Brady just built himself another legend. Wes Welker is the WR version of Scott ***** - nothing more. He was smart to play with Peyton where he won't be completely unmasked.

Wow, Wes Welker isn't one of the best receievers of all time?

He's constantly and consistently in the record books for things Jerry Rice couldn't do, or, he beat out Jerry's records.

And now you say he's not even top 50 and maybe not even top 100?

Get out, go watch Soccer or something.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Wow, Wes Welker isn't one of the best receievers of all time?

He's constantly and consistently in the record books for things Jerry Rice couldn't do, or, he beat out Jerry's records.

And now you say he's not even top 50 and maybe not even top 100?

Get out, go watch Soccer or something.

You should love Alex Smith, then. Evidently check-downs get you rock hard.

Because everyone knows that all receptions are created equal, regardless of era, YPC...anything. All that matters is the raw number of catches you have, even if you're just barely average at actually catching the ball when it's thrown to you.

Please - repeat your reception figures again. I didn't hear you the first time (and address them several times).

Go ahead and convince me that Wes Welker is a better WR than, say, John Stallworth.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You should love Alex Smith, then. Evidently check-downs get you rock hard.

Because everyone knows that all receptions are created equal, regardless of era, YPC...anything. All that matters is the raw number of catches you have, even if you're just barely average at actually catching the ball when it's thrown to you.

Please - repeat your reception figures again. I didn't hear you the first time (and address them several times).

Go ahead and convince me that Wes Welker is a better WR than, say, John Stallworth.

Do you really think that Welker was being checked down to?

A vast majority of welker's no huddle receptions are plays designed to go to him.

Seriously, go watch a pats game, you're a ****ing tard.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Do you really think that Welker was being checked down to?

A vast majority of welker's no huddle receptions are plays designed to go to him.

Seriously, go watch a pats game, you're a ****ing tard.

Of course they were designed to get to him. Just as pass after pass after pass was forced into him.

A check-down isn't any worse than a designed 7 yard dump.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You're really going to argue that Wes Welker has a physical skill-set that no other WR in the league can duplicate?

His first step is good - it's not great. He gets open because the routes he runs are brilliantly designed, not because he's just a damn wizard with his feet.

And you're honestly going to try to argue that a slot WR eliminates the pass rush? Wake me when we're putting Tamba Hali or Justin Houston on the slot WR.

That's just an ass-backwards argument. If anyone eliminates the pass-rush in NE, it's Rob Gronkowski, who does occupy LBs. Wes Welker does little more than draw the attention of overmatched Nickle corners. In that regard, he's no different than any slot WR; even Steve Breaston in the slot was getting teams to take a LBer off the field and bring in a nickle DB.

But hey, I respect the attempt to spin your way clear of a bullshit statement.

You don't get it, you really don't. I can't explain a philosophy to you if you lack the ability to see the WHOLE picture.

Wes Welker is the best slot receiver to ever play. One of the best receivers to ever play, period.

Lets just leave it at that, or you'll have serious trouble trying to keep up.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Of course they were designed to get to him. Just as pass after pass after pass was forced into him.

A check-down isn't any worse than a designed 7 yard dump.

So then you do realize that a play designed to go 7 yards, with a release of seconds after the ball is snapped, which eliminates the rush, is a strength of someone who can get open in that time?

I'm glad you agree that Wes Welker is ****ing awesome and just became a huge boost for the Broncos who do not have a slot receiver with the same skillset, and have now eliminated our pass rush by the mere stroke of a pen.

Now get out.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

You don't get it, you really don't. I can't explain a philosophy to you if you lack the ability to see the WHOLE picture.

Wes Welker is the best slot receiver to ever play. One of the best receivers to ever play, period.

Lets just leave it at that, or you'll have serious trouble trying to keep up.



So then you do realize that a play designed to go 7 yards, with a release of seconds after the ball is snapped, which eliminates the rush, is a strength of someone who can get open in that time?

I'm glad you agree that Wes Welker is ****ing awesome and just because a huge boost for the Broncos who do not have a slot receiver with the same skillset, and have now eliminated our pass rush by the mere stroke of a pen.

Now get out.

Sweetheart - nothing you will ever say will be lost on me.

I'm not the one that wrote a check my ass can't cash. Yeah "Brilliant hands" from a guy that drops 10% of the passes that get go him.

C'mon, champ - explain to me how a goddamn slot WR keeps pass-rushers off the field. More critically, how a good one does so any more effectively than an average one would. What in Welker's skill set makes him so good at getting open? Nothing - that's what. He's just the benefactor of a spread out offense that creates intermediate zones and a QB that has the timing of his offense down to an art. Tom Brady throws Wes Welker open far more often than not.

Educate me on how a guy with a slightly above average first step is able to just open himself up within the first 2 steps of his route when the CB is giving him 4 steps of cushion. I'm here to suckle at the knowledge of a guy that thinks Wes Welker should be mentioned in the same breath as Jerry !@#$ing Rice.

And really, you should put this down as some sort of position paper because the entire NFL fails to see your brilliance here. Surely such a deadly weapon would garner more than $6 million on the open market.

[RunKC]

Draft the best possible pass rusher and put that mother****er in on 2nd and 3rd down with Tamba and Houston.

That's really the only option now.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Draft the best possible pass rusher and put that mother****er in on 2nd and 3rd down with Tamba and Houston.

That's really the only option now.

I think you meant, draft the best bump and run man coverage DB and stick him on Welker.