The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

As this whole draft process goes on I think Star Lotulelei will probably establish himself as the best prospect in the draft. And I won't minimize the impact he'd have as a 3-4 DE that can actually get at the passer. He would make things so much easier for Hali/Houston which in turn makes things so much easier for the secondary.

Uhh what? Explain how Star Lotulelei would fit in a 1-gap scheme. He doesn't shoot for penetration. He collapses blocks. THat's what he does best. He wouldn't help our pass rush with shit.

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by SNR

Uhh what? Explain how Star Lotulelei would fit in a 1-gap scheme. He doesn't shoot for penetration. He collapses blocks. THat's what he does best. He wouldn't help our pass rush with shit.

From what I've seen, Star is very solid in taking up space. As far as a pass rusher, he needs some work on his pass rushing moves, but he has the ability to collapse the pocket with his strong bull rush. QBs won't be able to step up to avoid sacks from the outside rushers. When I look at Jackson/Dorsey, they're decent at holding blocks and taking up space, but they don't have the strength to push blockers backwards on a regular basis. Star can do that.

All told, I think he can develop into a player like Haloti Ngata.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

From what I've seen, Star is very solid in taking up space. As far as a pass rusher, he needs some work on his pass rushing moves, but he has the ability to collapse the pocket with his strong bull rush. QBs won't be able to step up to avoid sacks from the outside rushers. When I look at Jackson/Dorsey, they're decent at holding blocks and taking up space, but they don't have the strength to push blockers backwards on a regular basis. Star can do that.

All told, I think he can develop into a player like Haloti Ngata.

Dude's sounding more Tyson Jacksony the more people talk about him.

THat's EXACTLY how people described Tyson Jackson coming into the pros.

I don't want players who "need to work on" the thing that we need them to do. Star will be no more effective than Glenn Dorsey on this defensive line.

**** him.

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by SNR

Dude's sounding more Tyson Jacksony the more people talk about him.

THat's EXACTLY how people described Tyson Jackson coming into the pros.

I don't want players who "need to work on" the thing that we need them to do. Star will be no more effective than Glenn Dorsey on this defensive line.

**** him.

Fair enough. I've watched about 6 games of him and I'm way more enamored from him than I ever was Tyson Jackson. One man's opinion. Just saying what I think ends up happening. But I don't have anymore a clue as to who the new regime will pick than anyone else on this board.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

Fair enough. I've watched about 6 games of him and I'm way more enamored from him than I ever was Tyson Jackson. One man's opinion. Just saying what I think ends up happening. But I don't have anymore a clue as to who the new regime will pick than anyone else on this board.

I'm not directing my anger at you. I'm directing my anger at Star for resembling the kind of defensive linemen the Chiefs draft and then wonder why QBs have an entirely clean pocket when we don't send blitzers

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by SNR

I'm not directing my anger at you. I'm directing my anger at Star for resembling the kind of defensive linemen the Chiefs draft and then wonder why QBs have an entirely clean pocket when we don't send blitzers

Ha, I can totally understand that.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by SNR

Dude's sounding more Tyson Jacksony the more people talk about him.

THat's EXACTLY how people described Tyson Jackson coming into the pros.

I don't want players who "need to work on" the thing that we need them to do. Star will be no more effective than Glenn Dorsey on this defensive line.

**** him.

This. He isn't a pass rusher. I pissed off a friend on facebook when I told him he was stupid for wanting Tyson Jackson part 2.