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02-05-2013, 04:40 PM | #1562 | |
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02-05-2013, 04:42 PM | #1563 | |
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Jesus. Just get tomorrow done already. There hasn't been a single shred of good news since the clock hit 0:00 in the Syracuse game.
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02-05-2013, 04:47 PM | #1564 | |
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It's a shame, really, that Pinkel is not willing to be really cutthroat with guys like Brian Jones and Bruce Walker and Dave Christensen. His stubborn loyalty to them prevented him from taking his program to the next level.
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02-05-2013, 04:51 PM | #1565 | |
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What do you know about him that I don't? I really view him as the architect of the offense that did so much to move Mizzou to the cusp of...well not quite greatness, but really damn goodness. I wouldn't have seen loyalty to him as being damaging at all, let alone as damaging as loyalty to guys like Eberflous and Yost.
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02-05-2013, 04:56 PM | #1566 | |
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Christensen was fine as a recruiter and a pretty strong coach. Eberflus was another fucking disaster, like Walker, Jones and it looks like Grinch is going to be. Terrible coach and a nothing recruiter.
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02-05-2013, 05:00 PM | #1567 |
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Missouri's success was built upon finding diamonds in the rough. Alexander, Weatherspoon, Moore, and Egnew were all 2* players, for example. When this staff's ability to find those diamonds dried up, so did our ability to replace our NFL quality talent.
A competent staff would have used those diamonds to move up and start selecting players that are consensus solid recruits. That's what Patterson and Peterson have done at TCU and Boise. It's what Gonzaga did to build their BB program. Instead, Pinkel's staff's recruiting has made half-assed plays at targets they were never going to get and let a number of quality players slip through their grasp. This team is going to be in atrocious shape in about three years. Early 90s bad.
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02-05-2013, 05:08 PM | #1568 | |
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Look at it this way - any SEC program is going to be at/near the head of the line when it comes to most HC options. Arkansas just took a HC from a program that had consecutive BCS appearances, FFS. There is no excuse for an SEC school to not get a top 30 coach in the country on their staff. And Mizzou, even though they're flagging right now, can point to a recent history of success as well as a lot of money that's been donated and allocated towards improvements in facilities, etc... And Mizzou is still the only football school in a pretty good sized state (there isn't a more populous state in the country with only 1 'flagship' university). Pinkel's gone if he doesn't get a bowl this year...and he ain't getting into a bowl this year. So once we send these guys packing, we should be in a position to get a nice staff in here and hopefully have an off-season like Arkansas just had. Nah, I don't see us falling to early 90's bad. But I don't see us getting much better than where we are right now for quite some time.
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02-05-2013, 05:10 PM | #1569 |
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This is a great thread because some of you Mizzou guys really know your shit when it comes to recruiting.
How hard did Mizzou go after Maliek Collins? I really like that kids explosiveness. |
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02-05-2013, 05:26 PM | #1570 | |
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A guy like EJ Gaines would have been a two-star without a Missouri offer, for example. Lack of cutthroat recruiters on staff definitely kept them bogged in the same recruiting plan: 1) Hope Missouri has good talent and get as many MO players as possible 2) Mine secondary recruiting areas based on connections and targeting second-tier kids that don't get immediate offers from the big schools in those regions. I don't think TCU is a very good example. This year is the first year they've been ranked higher than Mizzou in recruiting rankings, and it's not a lead that is guaranteed to hold up (for example: IF Missouri flips EE OR lands Outlaw + Singleton). Other than that, they've been staring up at Mizzou in Rivals rankings. Boise is also not a great example. That team is stuck in the 50s and has been for years. But that's beside the point. I agree that they didn't do a good job of expanding the recruiting base. Part of that is that guys like Walker, Jones, Eberfllus, etc. just aren't good at recruiting
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02-05-2013, 05:27 PM | #1571 |
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Pretty hard. Tried to get back in on him last week. Didn't work.
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02-05-2013, 05:35 PM | #1572 |
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MO Valley needs to go D1.
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02-05-2013, 05:40 PM | #1573 |
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Singleton on board according to his hometown paper.
I wouldn't be shocked if he starts at CB from Day 1 next year. Pretty good player. 247 sports loves him, don't think Rivals has scouted him much if at all.
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02-05-2013, 05:41 PM | #1574 |
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I am surprised that Mo State hasn't tried to make the switch (AFAIK). They've had a couple guys make it to the NFL recently and it would be really nice if MO could have two D1 programs IMO.
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02-05-2013, 05:42 PM | #1575 |
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Singleton's a nice stopgap, I s'pose. I hate having to rely on JUCO players in football, though. It takes them a season to assimilate at all and by the time you're really starting to see strides - they're gone.
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