Was I wrong to call the cops?

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Really strange thing just happened.

So I'm sitting here lurking CP and Reddit. It was about 6:30 pm at the time.

My doorbell rang. People around here always go door to door and it's always an annoying foreign person trying to get money (often french, sometimes asian), so I didn't want to answer the door and I chose to ignore it since I'm not expecting anybody. I keep forgetting to get a no soliciting sign to put on my door.

Well then this guy starts ringing the doorbell over and over and over and over and over and then he starts banging the door really loud over and over and then more ringing the doorbell. It seemed really aggressive.

Mind you, I just watched Batman The Dark Knight Rises like 2 days ago. And without even knowing it, I yelled in a very loud batman voice WHO IS IT???

he yells PLUMBER in a loud manner and he sounded mexican, just to paint a picture.

I yell, I DIDNT ORDER A PLUMBER

The problem with the way my house is, I can't see from any window who is at the door. I have to do downstairs and open the door to see who it is. So I didn't know who the **** is out there and I didn't order any plumber.

So after I yelled "I DIDNT ORDER A PLUMBER!!" he starts banging the door and jiggling the door knob. So I'm like holy shit, this guy is trying to get in my house. I grab my knife and yell "I DIDNT ORDER A PLUMBER, SO LEAVE"

and he continues to jiggle the door knob and he's saying something that I can't make out. And continues to ring the door bell and bang on the door.

So I yell I'M CALLING THE POLICE

he continues to bang the door and jiggle the door knob for about another second and then disappears. Because at that point, my adrenaline is pumping and I already called the police so I march outside with my knife because at that point I want to see who the **** it is and why are they trying to get in my house. No sign of anybody.

There is a plumber van outside the door parked on the street, a reputable company. But nobody there.

He probably had the wrong house, but what kind of plumber keeps banging the door like that?

I told the cops, I don't know this just seemed really really off. They were like that's okay, thats what we are here for and they looked in the van but nobody in there and mentioned they wanted to speak to the plumber.

20 minutes later I hear the van start up and it drives off.

****ing weird.

Everything points to a complete misunderstanding except why did the guy keep banging the door, jiggling the door know and ringing the doorbell after I already told him to leave? Who does that?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Yeah, most people just have tasers lying around...and you're still wrong.

Go buy one. And yes, you taze someone and they will drop.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And there's some bullshit with this, too. If I'm going to make the decision to pull the trigger, the dude is going to die. There might be an excess round or two (or four) because this is far from a normal situation. Too much adrenaline and fear fueling the situation.

Yep. If you shoot someone, empty your clip. If you stab someone, stab them several times in different places. If you punch someone, keep punching until they stop fighting back.

People die because they underestimate the ability of a person to take a bullet and keep coming, especially when that person is on drugs.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

.......smh

Have you ever pulled the trigger? I have. I admit, it's scary as **** and I am lucky I didn't kill anyone.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Go buy one. And yes, you taze someone and they will drop.

You've got a taser, I've got a knife, and I'm within three body lengths of you, and you're dead.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And there's some bullshit with this, too. If I'm going to make the decision to pull the trigger, the dude is going to die. There might be an excess round or two (or four) because this is far from a normal situation. Too much adrenaline and fear fueling the situation.

You have to be smart about it. The simple answer to your sitation is called hollow points. If you drop someone and they are still alive and you pop them until they die you will be going to prison. Don't kid yourself.

That being said I agree that you want to kill them, not hurt them. But you just can't pop extra rounds into them and yes, they have ways to tell if you did that.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If you are trained with a knife, maybe. I'll take my chances with a firearm.

It takes no more training than you saw in that video. That is to say, if you know which way the pointy end goes, you're good.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You've got a taser, I've got a knife, and I'm within three body lengths of you, and you're dead.

Yeah, right until you go into spasms, drop the knife, I take it and stab you.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It takes no more training than you saw in that video. That is to say, if you know which way the pointy end goes, you're good.

Yeah, ok.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You have to be smart about it. The simple answer to your sitation is called hollow points. If you drop someone and they are still alive and you pop them until they die you will be going to prison. Don't kid yourself.

That being said I agree that you want to kill them, not hurt them. But you just can't pop extra rounds into them and yes, they have ways to tell if you did that.

Are you for real?

[Goldmember]

Originally Posted by burt

I probably sent those to the wrong place too.......

haha

[In58men]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Have you ever pulled the trigger? I have. I admit, it's scary as **** and I am lucky I didn't kill anyone.

I've pulled several triggers, just not towards someone. If someone is kicking my door in then. You have to react calmly. You can't just go bat shit with the trigger. A few friendly rounds, to try an scare the intruder will do. If you give him a warning or two and doesn't listen, then you pop him one. Keep shooting until the threat is gone. Meaning he's no longer walking towards you. He still could be standing, just not moving. The threat is gone. If he reaches for something then I would shoot until he drops. Basically killing him.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You have to be smart about it. The simple answer to your sitation is called hollow points. If you drop someone and they are still alive and you pop them until they die you will be going to prison. Don't kid yourself.

That being said I agree that you want to kill them, not hurt them. But you just can't pop extra rounds into them and yes, they have ways to tell if you did that.

I'm not advocating being maniacal about the situation. If someone is down, incapacitated but clearly alive, I'm not going to walk over to kill him. It's going to be up to the ambulance to determine whether he lives or dies.

My point is that the initial onslaught is likely to be more than decisive.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah, right until you go into spasms, drop the knife, I take it and stab you.

Jesus Christ, Pete. You aren't going to be able to hit a person with a taser from that range unless you've already got it aimed in the time it takes him to stab you. This is pretty basic stuff.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

I've pulled several triggers, just not towards someone. If someone is kicking my door in then. You have to react calmly. You can't just go bat shit with the trigger. A few friendly rounds, to try an scare the intruder will do. If you give him a warning or two and doesn't listen, then you pop him one. Keep shooting until the threat is gone. Meaning he's no longer walking towards you. He still could be standing, just not moving. The threat is gone. If he reaches for something then I would shoot until he drops. Basically killing him.

The ****?

Yeah, there are only "friendly rounds" chambered at my house.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Are you for real?

I am very for real. This is advice straight from the mouts if police officers. Trust me. I worked in liquor stores in very, very bad parts of town. I have had several conversations with law enforcment both friends of family and cops that would come into the store.

One thing you best understand, the criminal has more rights than you do, like it or not.