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Old 10-29-2012, 06:29 AM   #1
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It's hard to tell with any Bama QB in Saban's system because they are told to be game managers and to not screw up. They don't throw the ball all over the field nor do they ever have to.

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Was thinking of AJ yesterday. Didn't we already try an Alabama QB? Just like we have tried the majority of the LSU roster. AJ looks like a 4-6 rounder.
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I'd be leery due to USC QB syndrome.
These comments, made by several people, are stupid, IMO. You can discount a QB because you don't like his mechanics, arm strength, accuracy, decision making, etc, etc. Dissing him because of the school he went to is idiotic. I guess the Colts shouldn't have drafted Peyton Manning because Heath Shuler was a bust?
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:20 AM   #2
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It's hard to tell with any Bama QB in Saban's system because they are told to be game managers and to not screw up. They don't throw the ball all over the field nor do they ever have to.





These comments, made by several people, are stupid, IMO. You can discount a QB because you don't like his mechanics, arm strength, accuracy, decision making, etc, etc. Dissing him because of the school he went to is idiotic. I guess the Colts shouldn't have drafted Peyton Manning because Heath Shuler was a bust?
I love how you call those comments stupid while basically saying exactly the reason why we said them. Game manager on a powerhouse team, yeah, nothing questionable about that.

Its not the school its the situation. Certain schools just happen to regularly have that situation though. Do you follow?

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I would take him, but as more of a 4th rounder. We can do a Washington type scenario where they drafted the franchise (RGIII) in round 1 and a solid backup in case the franchise fails in the later rounds (Cousins). Right now we have no solid starter or backup. We need both and Stanzi is not looking like a capable backup or starter at this point.
Yeah that's my thinking.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:24 AM   #3
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I love how you call those comments stupid while basically saying exactly the reason why we said them. Game manager on a powerhouse team, yeah, nothing questionable about that.

Its not the school its the situation. Certain schools just happen to regularly have that situation though. Do you follow?
No, it's a stupid proposition. If Peyton Manning or RGIII went to USC and was successful at USC it wouldn't mean he'd be a bust in the NFL because he went to USC. That's just stupid.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:16 PM   #4
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No, it's a stupid proposition. If Peyton Manning or RGIII went to USC and was successful at USC it wouldn't mean he'd be a bust in the NFL because he went to USC. That's just stupid.
What's stupid is you can't tell how there's a clear difference between those situations.

Your Tennessee comparison is so goddamned stupid awful I don't know what to say. Let's look at Manning, or actually let's start with Luck and see why you're completely missing the entire point. Despite being on a good team and having a great coach, Luck wasn't being questioned (much, because actually there were some murmurs, especially after that USC game where they kept handing it off with the game on the line) like that because he was a pretty complete player: good arm, athleticism, size, toughness, knowledge, smarts, plus he had pedigree. Manning was similar.

McCarron? Yeah not so much. In no way does that mean he absolutely is not a good QB or won't be one in the NFL. No one is saying he's not a great prospect solely because of his team. Its because he's just been a game manager on that team for a little while, put up middling numbers, and just has not had a big breakout. He's not even the clear leader of his team, but then its really partway through the 2nd season of him at the helm.

There are other factors, which if you bothered to read past the first sentence I wrote you might have gotten [then again the reading comprehension of people here is so ****ing terrible that I can't even give you the benefit of the doubt]. Unfortunately he just hasn't done much of anything to really warrant much hype and in fact has more questions since at this point he's actually shown less than those USC QBs did so its even more of a question. Oh, and the NFL is much more of a passing league than Alabama at this point so you have to wonder if he can even shoulder it for 30+ passes a game against better talent.

The biggest reason I don't want anything to do with him, and a point I didn't raise before, is that he is a perfect fit for Pioli's dumbass mantra and we already know how much of a total failure that is.

There is that better?
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:38 PM   #5
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There is that better?
Much. People can have plenty of reasons to not like a guy but saying "because he went to USC" or "because he went to Alabama" is not a valid one, IMO.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:30 PM   #6
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Much. People can have plenty of reasons to not like a guy but saying "because he went to USC" or "because he went to Alabama" is not a valid one, IMO.
I don't know why not. When you are surrounded by 5 star talent on both sides of the ball and you just look good, that is telling. When I read stats about guys like barkley tearing it up then you watch the game and his wr are 10yds open it tells the truth.

Just like cassel at ne and flynn in gb the same goes to usc. Does that mean they cannot be great? No, but you will not know until they are away from their stacked teams.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:33 AM   #7
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It's hard to tell with any Bama QB in Saban's system because they are told to be game managers and to not screw up. They don't throw the ball all over the field nor do they ever have to.
This.

I don't see a real clear difference between McCarron, Stanzi, or Kirk Cousins really.

All somewhat similar.
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