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Old 04-14-2011, 01:29 PM   #1
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Pioli could start stacking picks . . . a.k.a. another example of the Patriots way, right? . . . but the Chiefs have so many needs it would be hard to be patient on acquiring what we need NOW - assuming there is a season.
IMO we are 4-5 quality players away from being a contender...not as far as you perceive things evidently.
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Old 04-14-2011, 01:38 PM   #2
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IMO we are 4-5 quality players away from being a contender...not as far as you perceive things evidently.
QB
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4-5 players away?
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Old 04-14-2011, 01:41 PM   #3
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DE opposite Dorsey
ILB
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4-5 players away?
I think we're two players away from really making noise, but these players are going to take a miracle to acquire: a franchise QB and another legit. WR.

Get the QB and everything else will work itself out a hell of a lot easier, but we don't seem to give a **** about this, for some strange reason.
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Old 04-14-2011, 01:54 PM   #4
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I think we're two players away from really making noise, but these players are going to take a miracle to acquire: a franchise QB and another legit. WR.

Get the QB and everything else will work itself out a hell of a lot easier, but we don't seem to give a **** about this, for some strange reason.
I think we would be much more competitive with those positions filled, but if the goal is to win championships, we need more, IMO.
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Old 04-14-2011, 01:57 PM   #5
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I think we would be much more competitive with those positions filled, but if the goal is to win championships, we need more, IMO.
AFC West championships? We're supposed to want more? You're obviously not a real Chiefs fan.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:00 PM   #6
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Old 04-14-2011, 01:47 PM   #7
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QB
RB2
WR2
WR3
C
RT (possibly)
NT
DE opposite Dorsey
ILB
OLB


4-5 players away?
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LT (Albert sucks - he's not an NFL caliber LT)
LG (Waters is done)
FB (Both of ours aren't very good)
DE (Dorsey's position, who, while better in 2010, isn't all that good)

13 guys who should be replaced.

I expect that we use one of our fifth rounders to trade up for a tight end to replace Pope.
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DE (Dorsey's position, who, while better in 2010, isn't all that good)


But what about when he lined up at LB?
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:02 PM   #9
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But what about when he lined up at LB?
Just calls 'em as I sees 'em. Dorsey was better in 2010 than in 2009, but he was still invisible more often than not. He flashed some, but was often overwhelmed, particularly in the running game. The guy is not a five tech, period.

I know that people around here are still hopeful for those two first rounders that Carl and Herm picked in 2008, but neither have justified their lofty pick status with on the field production. Albert simply does not have the talent to play left tackle at this level and Dorsey is playing out of position in the wrong scheme. He was outplayed by Arena Football castoff Smith and Wallace Gilberry. And I understand that with only so many players available that sometimes you have to make the best of a bad situation, but it's time that both positions are seriously looked at for potential upgrades.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:06 PM   #10
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Just calls 'em as I sees 'em. Dorsey was better in 2010 than in 2009, but he was still invisible more often than not. He flashed some, but was often overwhelmed, particularly in the running game. The guy is not a five tech, period.

I know that people around here are still hopeful for those two first rounders that Carl and Herm picked in 2008, but neither have justified their lofty pick status with on the field production. Albert simply does not have the talent to play left tackle at this level and Dorsey is playing out of position in the wrong scheme. He was outplayed by Arena Football castoff Smith and Wallace Gilberry. And I understand that with only so many players available that sometimes you have to make the best of a bad situation, but it's time that both positions are seriously looked at for potential upgrades.
That's fine, but we're going to have to agree to disagree. When it comes to Dorsey, we have two very different views of this player.
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LT (Albert sucks - he's not an NFL caliber LT)
LG (Waters is done)
FB (Both of ours aren't very good)
DE (Dorsey's position, who, while better in 2010, isn't all that good)

13 guys who should be replaced.

I expect that we use one of our fifth rounders to trade up for a tight end to replace Pope.
I'm not going to get in a pissing match over Albert, but I think Asomoah will take care of your need at guard.

You don't need a great fullback to win a championship. Hell, you really don't even need a good one. I'm trying to think of the last SB champion to actually utilize the FB.

Dorsey is more than good enough at DE. Jackson isn't.

Regardless, we're a lot farther away than 4-5 players, as Boss suggests.
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You don't need a great fullback to win a championship. Hell, you really don't even need a good one. I'm trying to think of the last SB champion to actually utilize the FB.
The Bucs?
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Without really thinking about it, probably.
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QB
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DE opposite Dorsey
ILB
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4-5 players away?
5 is more realistic...

RB2, WR3, DE and ILB are not even close to being pressing needs... not saying they couldn't be upgraded... but those spots aren't holding us back like the others.
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To me, contender means championship.

If you just want to go 9-7 or 10-6 every year, maybe make the playoffs, maybe not, then the positions I mentioned don't need upgrading.

This team WILL NOT win a championship with the Cassel, Jackson or Belcher as full-time starters.
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