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01-17-2024, 10:04 AM | #2 |
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24 year old first rounder? Nah no thanks.
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01-17-2024, 07:09 PM | #3 |
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He isn't going 1st round. I'd say 3rd is most likely.
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01-17-2024, 07:42 PM | #4 |
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Also I did a breakdown last draft season of the ages that Veach has drafted. He mainly drafts 21-22yo's, and an occasional 23yo, I dont think he's drafted any 24yo's. He focuses on younger guys that he can get a rookie contract out of and maybe a second contract before they hit 30.
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Yeah - Fiske ain't a first rounder. In part for the reasons he 'might be available for us in the 1st' in the OP.
I do think we'd probably have to take him in the 2nd if we wanted him. Or engineer a trade-up in the 3rd. But I don't think we have the draft capital for that sort of thing. Was it Dane Brugler that had us taking Newton out of Illinois? Because I could see a scenario where I'm on board with that. The draft has the possibility of going like it did last year when there really just was a big ol' pile of equal talent sitting there - none of it really 1st round caliber. In that case, Newton could very easily be the best raw talent on the board. And there's almost certainly going to be a need there. Feels like he could easily be Ed Oliver here.
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01-18-2024, 10:32 AM | #6 |
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If we have that again with our first rounder....it'll make it more palatable for people to understand trading it for someone.
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How did a draft that looked to be setting up so incredibly well at about pick 20 turn into a dumpster fire by the time it got to us? Man that was painful. But hey, the broken road led to Rashee Rice so we're all good here...
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Just like it'll work out fine when we have Justin Jefferson and no first rounder for 2 years. |
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I haven't finished my next mock yet, but I have eyes on Darius Robinson from Mizzou in round 2 now that he declared.
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I might look at him in the 3rd, but I can't see talking myself into Robinson in the 2nd.
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I see him in a slightly better light than Fiske but still in the category of we aren't getting him at the end of the 3rd. He's a couple years younger than Fiske and coming off of 8.5 sacks.
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Brugler had Robinson at the very end of the second in his most recent two round mock.
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I mean I guess that means he's a Spags DE in some ways. But I don't see a 300 lb guy with his relative stiffness being a defensive end at the next level. And I've never seen him truly excel as a pure interior player. On paper he measures similar to Chris Jones but I don't see near the burst that Jones demonstrated. Honestly, he may be best served as a 3-tech in an odd front. I see Gervon Dexter as a similar sort of prospect but I think Dexter was far more explosive.
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With Jones, it took him a couple of seasons in the weight room to get to be the powerful guy we see now. He was more powerful than Robinson is coming out but we are talking a borderline/should have been 1st rounder compared to a borderline 2nd/3rd guy. There's going to be a little drop off. I think Robinson has to get bigger. He's lighter than the listed 295, for sure. probably 280-285. |
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