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04-18-2017, 05:28 PM | #46 |
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And for the record I hope we draft Mahomes.
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04-18-2017, 07:16 PM | #47 | |
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If we take Mixon in rd 2, it will be a mixed bag of feelings. If we take Mixon in rd 3, people will mostly be happy as hell. I seriously doubt Mixon will last beyond rd 3. I don't see how Mixon will crash CPlanet.
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04-18-2017, 07:23 PM | #48 | |
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04-18-2017, 07:26 PM | #49 |
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What does that have to do with Mixon?
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04-19-2017, 07:57 AM | #50 | |
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I completely follow what you're saying regarding the monetary side. That 1.27 QB, if they pan out, over the the first 4 years is a tremendous savings. |
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04-19-2017, 08:16 AM | #51 |
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Saw a tweet stating how Arizona is a perfect place for a rookie QB because Palmer usually sits out Wednesday practices anyways and the rookie could get first team reps those days to get him some experience. I dont think Watson is a fit for Arians offense because of his preference for bigger arms. TRADE UP TO 12 DORSEY!!
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04-19-2017, 08:18 AM | #52 | |
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04-19-2017, 08:53 AM | #53 | |
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So 5 years, $24 million, give or take a bit. That's 5 years of quarterback for 1.5 years worth of salary. And when you figure backups are making $4 million or so in the open market these days, you even get some solid value in his year or two on the bench. So let's say he rides pine for 2 years (which would be a pretty shitty scenario, but let's project it anyway). If he gives you 2 years as a backup and 3 years as even an average starter (which will probably cost about $19 million on the market over those 3 seasons). You're talking about roughly $64 million for 2 years of backup play and 3 years for a starter. That's $40 million over 5; a pretty huge advantage. And if we get 4 years of adequate play as a starter instead of 3, it jumps up to $55 million. Anything better than adequate could start pushing that to $60-$70 million. You might be able to approach that kind of cap advantage with a pass rusher or maybe a CB provided that said pass rusher or CB starts all 5 years and plays at a high level. Mixon won't be a game changer for this team, IMO. He's not going to be better than peak Jamaal Charles and the one season we had a healthy Charles on this team we went 9-7. Reid isn't going to lean on his RBs and even if he did, Mixon would have to somehow generate anywhere from $8-10 million/season annually in marginal surplus value over the Ware/West combination. If he's David Johnson he might get you there but that requires you to just assume he's the best all-around RB in football and won't have any more issues with the law, which is hardly a fair assumption. Moreover, the 'marginal' surplus is the key here. He has to be not only $8-$10 million better than the market over that period of time, but $8-10 million better than Ware or any other RB you may take in the 3rd/4th round of this round or subsequent drafts. I just don't see it.
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04-19-2017, 09:02 AM | #54 |
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So say they could draft mahomes or Watson in the first round without trading up. What could you save by cutting smith this year?
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04-19-2017, 09:06 AM | #55 |
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Now much do you lose if you don't have the patience to develop that rookie QB, and you ruin him by starting him too early in his career?
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But you don't cut Smith this year. Mahomes isn't ready to start and Watson sucks so there's no way you cut Smith when he's already part of your salary structure.
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04-19-2017, 09:14 AM | #57 | |
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But guys learn by playing. Even sitting a guy a year, you lose a year of financial value and experience. Now year 2 is the rookie year, year 3 and so in and so forth. If he hits it as a franchise qb and you have to shell big $ out for him, you're behind the 8 ball. None of these dudes are probably ready, but the chiefs have a really strong roster and wouldn't necessarily need the guy to be a star early. |
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04-19-2017, 09:15 AM | #58 | |
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But if they do land a qb they want early and a team called about offering say, a 3rd to take smith off our hands, I'd listen pretty hard. |
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04-19-2017, 09:19 AM | #59 | |
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"Gotta knock on the door before you kick it in..." If you just give away a season (and yes, that's what you'll be doing with Mahomes under center; the schedule is likely to be damn tough at the front based on what teams are projecting), you've lost the opportunity to get those snaps for your young core. Hell, even as a backup, Mahomes could get something from the intensity of playoff preparation. Nah, there's too much long-term value to be gained by a successful season and even a single playoff game to just wad it up and toss it for a season's worth of cap relief and a 3rd round pick.
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04-19-2017, 09:25 AM | #60 | |
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Hell, I never would have thought Dak could do what he did and here we are. The Chiefs are currently really talented on both sides. Add a dynamic rb and some defensive pieces and I'm not sure you couldn't nurse your rookie qb along early and have him going by December. Yeah, those young guys need to learn, but letting them all learn together with the qb they're gonna be with for the next 6 years would be beneficial, eh? Plus that cap space is rollable, as you know. That could be big next year when looking for another pass rusher or what not. |
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