OverTheCap.com: Chiefs 2015 Salary Cap Outlook

[Simply Red]

Any chance we could get Tyson Jackson back?

Just joking.

[chiefzilla1501]

2015 cap matters. But not entirely.

We have a lot of space in 2016 and beyond. That gives us tons of flexibility to sign whoever we want to this year.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

2015 cap matters. But not entirely.

We have a lot of space in 2016 and beyond. That gives us tons of flexibility to sign whoever we want to this year.

You never stop.

You realize that all the signing we have to do this year is going to shred all that space in 2016. Unless we let high dollar guys walk.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

You never stop.

You realize that all the signing we have to do this year is going to shred all that space in 2016. Unless we let high dollar guys walk.

The cap is going to continue to rise the next 3 years, above projections.

Over that period of time, some big contracts fall off the books.

Even as soon as 2016, the Chiefs only have salary commitments of 85 million...and 18 million of that is from Bowe and Fasano.

Chiefszilla is absolutely correct.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

The cap is going to continue to rise the next 3 years, above projections.

Over that period of time, some big contracts fall off the books.

Even as soon as 2016, the Chiefs only have salary commitments of 85 million...and 18 million of that is from Bowe and Fasano.

Chiefszilla is absolutely correct.

only assumptions

You don't know how much the cap is going up or what other players are going to want more money.

You don't even know if the Chiefs will dump Bowe or anyone else.


Dorsey gave that big money to Bowe,Smith,Fasano,Daniel etc.

What makes you think he will do better in the future?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

only assumptions

You don't know how much the cap is going up or what other players are going to want more money.

You don't even know if the Chiefs will dump Bowe or anyone else.


Dorsey gave that big money to Bowe,Smith,Fasano,Daniel etc.

What makes you think he will do better in the future?

We were drastically under the cap when he got here and he needed to spend money to

A) make the team competitive
B) be compliant with the new CBA and the minimums.
C) Pump up the fan base

20 wins the last 2 seasons shows his plan is working IMO.

As far as the rest of that...just watch it play out.

The higher these tv contracts go, the higher the salary cap will go. It's really as simple as that.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

only assumptions

You don't know how much the cap is going up or what other players are going to want more money.

You don't even know if the Chiefs will dump Bowe or anyone else.


Dorsey gave that big money to Bowe,Smith,Fasano,Daniel etc.

What makes you think he will do better in the future?

furthermore, we can't even yell 'gut the thing and start from scratch!!'

because what makes anyone think Dorsey/Reid wouldn't just go out and give a bunch of money to another bunch of average players?


If Dorsey doesn't have outstanding drafts immediately we are ****ed

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

What makes you think he will do better in the future?

He's a new GM.

You don't think it's possible to improve?

I suppose you were perfect at every new job you've ever had.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by BossChief

The cap is going to continue to rise the next 3 years, above projections.

Over that period of time, some big contracts fall off the books.

Even as soon as 2016, the Chiefs only have salary commitments of 85 million...and 18 million of that is from Bowe and Fasano.

Chiefszilla is absolutely correct.

85 not counting Hudson, Houston, Poe, Sean Smith, 2015 rookies and 2016 rookies. Our cap position is not that rosy.

Hudson, minimum 6/year; Houston, minimum 15/year; Sean Smith, minimum 8/year; Poe, minimum 13/year.
2015 Rookies: 6.5
2016 Rookies: 6

That's only another 55m/year to factor in. 140 may leave us like 10-15 mill in cap space in 2016.

If you project backloading contracts to make room for a couple free agents in 2015, we are cramped. That said - 2015 is the year to sign free agents given that we will not lose potential comp picks in the process, and it may be worth backloading slightly.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

85 not counting Hudson, Houston, Poe, Sean Smith, 2015 rookies and 2016 rookies. Our cap position is not that rosy.

Hudson, minimum 6/year; Houston, minimum 15/year; Sean Smith, minimum 8/year; Poe, minimum 13/year.
2015 Rookies: 6.5
2016 Rookies: 6

That's only another 55m/year to factor in. 140 may leave us like 10-15 mill in cap space in 2016.

If you project backloading contracts to make room for a couple free agents in 2015, we are cramped. That said - 2015 is the year to sign free agents given that we will not lose potential comp picks in the process, and it may be worth backloading slightly.

That is the reason we drafted Fisher to get rid of Alberts big number. We drafted Ford to get rid of Halis big number. We will draft this year to get rid of someone elses big number. Just look at where the money is at or is going to be at soon and you will see high potential in drafting those positions.

[BossChief]

1) Berry won't count against the cap at all in 2015 and didn't count against the cap after his diagnosis last year. His 8.357 will be fully available.

2) we have around 5m to rollover from 2014

3) if designated a June 1st cut, Bowe would save us 9.5 million in 2015...not just 5m.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by BossChief

1) Berry won't count against the cap at all in 2015 and didn't count against the cap after his diagnosis last year. His 8.357 will be fully available.

2) we have around 5m to rollover from 2014

3) if designated a June 1st cut, Bowe would save us 9.5 million in 2015...not just 5m.

Likely a stupid question, but here it goes. If we wait until June 1st to cut Bowe, whats the point in saving $4.5 extra in space? Free Agency is over by then.

Also, what is the date by which teams are required to officially be under the cap?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by TimBone

Likely a stupid question, but here it goes. If we wait until June 1st to cut Bowe, whats the point in saving $4.5 extra in space? Free Agency is over by then.

Also, what is the date by which teams are required to officially be under the cap?

You can designate a player as a June 1st cut and release him before that.

Not sure the exact date, but I'm pretty sure it's around the time preseason ends.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by BossChief

You can designate a player as a June 1st cut and release him before that.

Not sure the exact date, but I'm pretty sure it's around the time preseason ends.

Thanks.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by TimBone

Likely a stupid question, but here it goes. If we wait until June 1st to cut Bowe, whats the point in saving $4.5 extra in space? Free Agency is over by then.

Also, what is the date by which teams are required to officially be under the cap?

March 10th

I bet there are some seriously major changes the closer we get to that date.