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Old 01-04-2015, 03:30 PM   #1
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But the consensus pick who doesn't bust is just fine.

What a dumb statement.

JFC sometimes it is what it is and Dorsey was considered a damn near cant miss.
No. **** consensus all together. Do your own shit and be good at it.

The consensus was everyone giving Dallas shit for taking Martin in the 1st. They nailed that one.

"The Consensus" was Bridgewater wasn't worth a top pick because of one shitty workout. Oops!

"The Consensus" is how you end up with Eric Fisher as your left tackle, because he was one of the top 2 players in the draft.

Tired of hearing the "reaching" shit because of "x", "y", and "z". That's how guys most people know have real talent like Russel Wilson and Justin Houston drop to the third.
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Old 01-04-2015, 03:39 PM   #2
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No. **** consensus all together. Do your own shit and be good at it.

The consensus was everyone giving Dallas shit for taking Martin in the 1st. They nailed that one.

"The Consensus" was Bridgewater wasn't worth a top pick because of one shitty workout. Oops!

"The Consensus" is how you end up with Eric Fisher as your left tackle, because he was one of the top 2 players in the draft.
And Luck, Manning, Manning, Rivers, and on and on and on were all universally regarded as top 5 picks.

You can hate the consensus top 5 picks all you want and pick outside the box. I will take the top 5 guys and kick your ass with them all day long.

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Old 01-04-2015, 03:56 PM   #3
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And Luck, Manning, Manning, Rivers, and on and on and on were all universally regarded as top 5 picks.

You can hate the consensus top 5 picks all you want and pick outside the box. I will take the top 5 guys and kick your ass with them all day long.

Moron.
I just hate the "term" consensus. The "consensus" was Andy Reid was the best option on the market. You don't always have to go against the grain, but there is nothing wrong with doing your own thing without fear of criticism because "the consensus".
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Old 01-04-2015, 04:03 PM   #4
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I just hate the "term" consensus. The "consensus" was Andy Reid was the best option on the market. You don't always have to go against the grain, but there is nothing wrong with doing your own thing without fear of criticism because "the consensus".
You don't get to have it both ways. You cant say you are fine with consensus when it works and hate it when it doesn't.

To your example, I wanted Chip Kelley as HC.

Reid was probably the 2nd best option and fact is Clark went after him because wanted to end the circus we had going on and no one should blame him. Fact is it has worked to some degree.
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Old 01-04-2015, 04:12 PM   #5
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You don't get to have it both ways. You cant say you are fine with consensus when it works and hate it when it doesn't.

To your example, I wanted Chip Kelley as HC.

Reid was probably the 2nd best option and fact is Clark went after him because wanted to end the circus we had going on and no one should blame him. Fact is it has worked to some degree.
You aren't getting it. "Consensus" is bullshit and not a valid excuse for a **** up. You ****ed up.. plain and simple. What's the point of having your own guys if you want to blame the "consensus"?

Pioli was the "consensus" top guy. Clark ****ed up. I don't want to hear Clark went out and got the top consensus guy ever
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Old 01-04-2015, 04:28 PM   #6
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You aren't getting it. "Consensus" is bullshit and not a valid excuse for a **** up. You ****ed up.. plain and simple. What's the point of having your own guys if you want to blame the "consensus"?

Pioli was the "consensus" top guy. Clark ****ed up. I don't want to hear Clark went out and got the top consensus guy ever
Andy Reid was the "consensus" best head coach available in 2013, yet Bruce Arians has had more success.
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Old 01-04-2015, 04:29 PM   #7
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Andy Reid was the "consensus" best head coach available in 2013, yet Bruce Arians has had more success.
He has? How so?
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

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No. **** consensus all together. Do your own shit and be good at it.

The consensus was everyone giving Dallas shit for taking Martin in the 1st. They nailed that one.

"The Consensus" was Bridgewater wasn't worth a top pick because of one shitty workout. Oops!

"The Consensus" is how you end up with Eric Fisher as your left tackle, because he was one of the top 2 players in the draft.

Tired of hearing the "reaching" shit because of "x", "y", and "z". That's how guys most people know have real talent like Russel Wilson and Justin Houston drop to the third.
I agree. Just take good football players.

But i think some of this isn't that the players picked are bad, they just aren't developed very well either.
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Old 01-04-2015, 03:50 PM   #9
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I agree. Just take good football players.

But i think some of this isn't that the players picked are bad, they just aren't developed very well either.
No, sometimes players just bust because they are not very good, lazy, etc......a variety of reasons really. Every team has picks who bust. Every single one.
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