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No, it's four sections. Ours and three others. The water for all four sections is on our land. One of the other sections may have a small well, but they can only get about 4-5 head in there at a time. That is probably about 800+ head of cattle that is winding up on our land when we should be looking at about 200-250 if we are supposing 3 acre/head.
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With bison I would probably use the same equipment but move the steel post to wood post around 3 to 1..the wood post help keep the wire from getting stretched if they push on it..Redbrand wire has really good barbs on it so if it pokes them enough it should keep them from pushing too much I would imagine that if the bison have enough food and nothing bothering them in the fields then I can't see them pushing to get out Oh if you have the income to do it..look into high tensile fencing..it is smooth wire but half of the wires are electric..I have heard it is really good fence..kind of a pain to first learn but once figured out it is good shit Hope this helps |
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Barbed wire rates in iowania are around $1.50/ft or near $2k/ 1/4 mile. Fencing isn't cheap. That is also a standard fencing rate and would increase if you go 6 barb and more if fence is taller or woven wire.
Relating to water I am not sure how that works in Kansas but it is my understanding that you cannot do things to remove water rights from neighbors. Example you couldn't divert or pond a stream if it took water away from downstream neighbors. You didn't answer my question. Do you have livestock experience or does your family own land and you think it should be generating more income. Do you understand livestock and the associated work? Calving. Treatment of sickness, pinkeye, hoof rot, working them. Hay production, winter feeding etc? You have water. Is it heated or are you chopping ice every day of winter? |
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You mentioned rain earlier. If you're in an area of Kansas dependent upon rain, 3 head per acre might be a pipe dream. I'm assuming you own nothing, so at 3/head you're looking at over a half million in stock and probably closer to 3/4 million. If you can afford that, the fencing costs are just another check you put a pen to. In general, you don't just start raising stock and you damn sure don't jump into buffalo without some serious growing pains. You're going to need some deep pockets as you buy your knowledge with **** ups and everything else that happens over the first 5 years of the adventure. DO NOT use current beef figures in hopes of that level being the new norm. We're at all time highs right now and that will no doubt cycle down in a few years as the system corrects itself. Go to your local ag specialist or extension agent, he'll have the answers that pertain to your specific area. |
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Our lack of experience with cattle is one of the reasons why we are considering bison; they are supposed to be easier to raise in terms of management. They are something that can be kept in the pasture year round. We are going to be talking to some bison ranchers in the near future around here. There are a couple of good operations nearby. After talking to them, I think we will have a better idea of whether or not this is something we want to undertake. |
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First off I'd ask are set on buffalo? While I personally don't have much experience with buffalo my grandpa was experimenting with beefalo. This was back in the late 1960s. What he found out was you got the benefit of both breeds. The hardiness of a buffalo but the nice tender better cuts of meat the bovine offered. He also noticed easier calving with them as opposed to his regular red angus. You still get a leaner healthier cut of meat with beefalo that you're looking for with the buffalo. Just throwing this out there as maybe a cheaper start up alternative since your land is set up for cattle already.
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