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Old 10-15-2018, 02:56 PM  
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So Bill Self knew . . . . ?
So Coach Self knew about Adidas paying players to come to Kansas??

Article on ESPN.com front page:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...sa-recruitment

Another new article from ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...oach-bill-self
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Old 10-15-2018, 02:58 PM   #2
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:01 PM   #3
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:04 PM   #4
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You’d have to be pretty naive to assume any top program (at the very least) is completely clean. Why would a kid with no true allegiance to any university no go to one that’s going to get them paid right away?
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:05 PM   #5
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Those texts are pretty damning. Will KU fire him?
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:14 PM   #6
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:16 PM   #7
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I don't think anyone REALLY believed he didn't know. Nobody is that stupid/naive.
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:16 PM   #8
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You’d have to be pretty naive to assume any top program (at the very least) is completely clean. Why would a kid with no true allegiance to any university no go to one that’s going to get them paid right away?
I lived in Lawrence for 3 years and there was one incident that was particularly upsetting that never seemed to get out of the city limits. A 16-year-old girl was under the influence of drugs and alcohol and reported being raped by one or two basketball players. Nothing came of it, and everybody in town just pretended not to know anything about it, with some going out of their way to make fun of the minor.

I worked in the service industry at the time and can't name the number of stories we would all hear from our counterparts up and down Mass St about bball players getting away with ****ed up shit.
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I don't think anyone REALLY believed he didn't know. Nobody is that stupid/naive.
Sucks that this Gassnola fellow is a moron and got Self caught red handed.
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:26 PM   #10
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Sucks that this Gassnola fellow is a moron and got Self caught red handed.
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I lived in Lawrence for 3 years and there was one incident that was particularly upsetting that never seemed to get out of the city limits. A 16-year-old girl was under the influence of drugs and alcohol and reported being raped by one or two basketball players. Nothing came of it, and everybody in town just pretended not to know anything about it, with some going out of their way to make fun of the minor.

I worked in the service industry at the time and can't name the number of stories we would all hear from our counterparts up and down Mass St about bball players getting away with ****ed up shit.


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I lived in Lawrence for 3 years and there was one incident that was particularly upsetting that never seemed to get out of the city limits. A 16-year-old girl was under the influence of drugs and alcohol and reported being raped by one or two basketball players. Nothing came of it, and everybody in town just pretended not to know anything about it, with some going out of their way to make fun of the minor.

I worked in the service industry at the time and can't name the number of stories we would all hear from our counterparts up and down Mass St about bball players getting away with ****ed up shit.

Did you graduate college and if so, from where?
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**** the NCAA tho
What did the NCAA do? Enforce their rules? They have to clean up the mess that the NBA and NFL create by their idiotic discriminatory rules. I have no idea how the 19 year old rule is even in place. The NBA knowingly is forcing kids to go to college and to use the NCAA as their free cost to them minor league system.

People shit on the NCAA and I'm tired of it. Nobody is forcing these kids to do anything. They know all the rules before they show up. Don't want to play by the rules? Fine. Do what Mitchell Robinson did - sit out. Or do what lots of kids did - go play in Europe for a year. Stop ****ing whining about the NCAA. The NCAA has to deal with this shit. Let me assure you - the NCAA would love nothing more than to NOT have to deal with these Top 30 kids who are always involved in back alley agent, AAU and shoe company deals. Less work for them to try to investigate stuff.
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Those texts are pretty damning. Will KU fire him?
So this is damning?

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Former Adidas consultant T.J. Gassnola testified in federal court Monday that he didn't believe that Kansas Jayhawks coach Bill Self and assistant coach Kurtis Townsend were aware he was facilitating money from the sneaker company to the parents or guardians of high-profile recruits to ensure they signed with the Jayhawks.

But text messages between Gassnola, Self and Townsend presented by defense attorneys on Monday indicated the Kansas coaches were at least aware of Gassnola's involvement in the Jayhawks' recruitment of current player Silvio De Sousa, a native of Angola.
Nowhere in the article does it say that Self or KU knew they were paying the kids. None of the texts show that either. Tell me how those texts are "damning".
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