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**** Official Pirates at Royals 7/20/15 GDT ****

Pirates: (53-38, 2nd NL Central)
Burnett (7-3, 2.11 ERA) 6.0 IP 1K 11H 1BB 6ER Balk, non-call ejection (W)
... a Bastard 0.1 IP 0K 1H 0BB 1ER
... J. Hughes 0.2 IP 0K 0H 0BB 0ER
... T. Watson 1.0 IP 1K 1H 0BB 0ER
... M. Melancon 0.2 IP 0K 0H 1BB 0ER (Save)

9 - G. Polanco 2-5 R (backward)K
4 - N. Walker 1-5 2RBI 3B K
8 - A. McCutchen 2-4 RBI 2B 3K (Erased at HP in T3 [3-2])
7 - S. Marte 3-4 2R SB K
6 - J. Kang 2-4 2B 2R BB
DH - P. Alvarez 2-5 RBI R 2K
2 - F. Cervelli 1-3 R FC K (Pulled due to injury B7)
.... C. Stewart 1-1
3 - T. Ishikawa 3-5 HR 4RBI 2 2B 2K
5 - S. Rodriguez 0-5 FC (backward)K

HR: Ishikawa to left (off Medlen T5, scores Kang)


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Royals: (55-35, 1st AL Central)
Ventura (4-6, 4.73 ERA) 4.0 IP 7K 10H 1BB 6ER (L)
... K. Medlen 3.1 IP 4K 3H 0BB 4ER (First appearance since Sept. 2013)
... L. Hochevar 1.2 IP 2K 3H 0BB 0ER

6 - A. Escobar 2-5 R SB
5 - M. Moustakas 2-3 HR 2HBP (Erased at 2B B1 [7-4])
8 - L. Cain 1-5 R
3 - E. Hosmer 3-4 RBI 3B 2R BB
DH - K. Morales 1-4 HR (SAC..?) 3RBI
2 - S. Perez 2-4 K
4 - O. Infante 1-3 2B BB
9 - A. Rios 1-4 R SB 2B K (Stole home in B4)
7 - J. Dyson 1-1 HBP FC K

HR: Morales off RF pole (off Burnett B5, scores Hosmer); Moustakas to center right (solo off Burnett B7)


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Old 07-20-2015, 06:56 PM   #121
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:56 PM   #122
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Ventura needs to throw 98-100 or he can't get people out
How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:57 PM   #123
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:57 PM   #124
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:57 PM   #125
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Just call him Kim Jong Un. It's easier to remember. I hate that ****.
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:58 PM   #126
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:58 PM   #127
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:58 PM   #128
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:58 PM   #129
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Just call him Kim Jong Un. It's easier to remember. I hate that ****.
FYI, Aaron Crow only has two pitches.
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:59 PM   #130
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**** him...douche swung at ball 4 with a strike to give and then whiffed not even giving us a chance.....
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How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.
A lot more pitches across the middle with no movement and some type of injury.
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:01 PM   #132
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FYI, Aaron Crow only has two pitches.
Too hard to teach a polished college righty a changeup grip?
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:01 PM   #133
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How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.
Just ask yourself one thing ... What's harder to hit? 95 or 98?

That 3 MPH makes a world of difference. If Kelvin Herrera threw 95 he'd be useless. Last year, Ventura led baseball in pitches thrown over 98 MPH and led all starters in average MPH fastball

This year? I guarantee he's way down. 95 is hittable. 99 takes luck. The difference between 90 & 95 is one thing, the difference between 95 & 100 is just HUGE
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He's gunning it now ... Maybe he's done with this "throw softer" bullshit
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