Movies and TV Streaming about to get very expensive

Eleazar · 07-01-2019, 10:31 AM

(This article is from the UK, but applies here as well)

Streaming TV is about to get very expensive – here's why

With Disney, Apple and others about to launch their own services, a lot of your favourite shows are likely to vanish behind paywalls. The golden age of streaming is over

Stuart Heritage

The most watched show on US Netflix, by a huge margin, is the US version of The Office. Even though the platform pumps out an absurd amount of original programming – 1,500 hours last year – it turns out that everyone just wants to watch a decade-old sitcom. One report last year said that The Office accounts for 7% all US Netflix viewing.

So, naturally, NBC wants it back. This week, it was announced that Netflix had failed to secure the rights to The Office beyond January 2021. The good news is that it will still be available to watch elsewhere. The bad news is that “elsewhere”, means “the new NBCUniversal streaming platform”.

Is the end of Netflix's golden age in sight?

As a viewer, you are right to feel queasy. The industry-disrupting success of Netflix means that everybody wants a slice of the pie. Right now, things are just about manageable – if you have a TV licence, a Netflix subscription, an Amazon subscription and a Now TV subscription, you are pretty much covered – but things are about to take a turn for the worse.

In November, Disney will launch Disney+, a streaming platform that will not only block off an enormous amount of existing content (Disney films, ABC shows, Marvel and Pixar films, Lucasfilm, The Simpsons and everything else made by 20th Century Fox), but will also offer a range of new scripted Marvel shows that will directly inform the narrative of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Essentially, if you want to understand anything that happens in any Marvel film from this point onwards, you’ll need to splash out on a Disney+ subscription.

Apple will also be entering the streaming market at about the same time, promising new work from Sofia Coppola, Jennifer Aniston, Oprah Winfrey, Reese Witherspoon, Brie Larson, Damien Chazelle and Steven Spielberg. In the next three years, Apple will spend $4.2bn on original programming, and you won’t get to see any of it if you don’t pay a monthly premium.

There are so many others. NBCUniversal is pulling its shows from Netflix for its own platform. Before long, Friends is likely to disappear behind a new WarnerMedia streaming service – along with Lord of the Rings films, the Harry Potter films, anything based on a DC comic and everything on HBO – that it is believed will cost about £15 a month. In the UK, the BBC and ITV will amalgamate their archives behind a service called BritBox. The former Disney chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg is about to launch a platform called Quibi, releasing “snackable” content from Steven Spielberg and others that is designed to be watched on your phone. YouTube is producing more and more original subscription-only content. Facebook is making shows, for crying out loud.

And this sucks. Watching television is about to get very, very expensive. There will be a point where viewers are going to hit their tolerance for monthly subscriptions – I may be able to manage one more service, but only if I unsubscribe from an existing platform – meaning that TV will become more elitist, tiered and fragmented than it already is. There’s a huge difference between not being able to watch everything because there’s too much choice and not being able to watch everything because you don’t have enough money.

Most importantly, we should all remember that this content war is hinged upon a fundamental misunderstanding of viewing habits. Netflix didn’t become a monster because people wanted to watch a specific show; it became a monster because people wanted to watch everything. When its streaming platform launched, people were spending more than £15 just to watch a single season of a show on DVD. So to be able to watch every season of a show – and every season of hundreds of others of shows – for a fiver a month was revolutionary. The whole point of Netflix was that it was a relatively affordable bucket that contained an awful lot of television. That’s why people liked it. That’s why so many people subscribed and continue to subscribe. To pretend otherwise is to miss the point.

That will be a memory soon. The Netflix model was great for viewers, but it couldn’t last. The content creators got greedy and scared, and now they’re determined to drag things back to the bad old ways. They will force everyone to pay for everything separately, and the subscriber base will split, and the providers will have to recoup the money they are spending to take on Netflix – such as the $500m that NBCUniversal spent to get The Office back, the $250m Amazon is spending on a Lord of the Rings series and the $500m that Warner just spent to win the services of JJ Abrams – which means that subscriptions will rise. Make no mistake: we’re the ones likely to get stiffed here.

The golden age of television may be going strong, but the golden age of streaming is dead.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...sive-heres-why

InChiefsHeaven · 07-01-2019, 10:35 AM

This shit was bound to happen.

**loochy** · 07-01-2019, 10:37 AM

#pirateTime

Imon Yourside · 07-01-2019, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy

#pirateTime

Such the same as before.

displacedinMN · 07-01-2019, 10:41 AM

So when can I watch The World's Strongest Man and Gus???

Millennials take note

Internet connection 130.00
Netflix 20.00
Disney 40.00
Hulu 20.00
whatever 30.00

240.00 for cord cutting.

Yeah-you are really saving money.

ToxSocks · 07-01-2019, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

So when can I watch The World's Strongest Man and Gus???

Millennials take note

Internet connection 130.00
Netflix 20.00
Disney 40.00
Hulu 20.00
whatever 30.00

240.00 for cord cutting.

Yeah-you are really saving money.

$130 for Internet?

Lol yeah no.

Nextflix is $15.
Disney, Hulu and whatever are completely unnecessary. That's the whole point of cord cutting. You pick the content based on your budget.

displacedinMN · 07-01-2019, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

$130 for Internet?

Lol yeah no.

Nextflix is $15.
Disney, Hulu and whatever are completely unnecessary. That's the whole point of cord cutting. You pick the content based on your budget.

How fast do you want it? I have Xfinity Blast. With Fiber-major fast. Mine has security and a camera on it.
Then there are limits on some.

Netflix will go up. But if you want all of the other options and shows, you have to pay for the services that provide them. How much is HBO streaming???

ToxSocks · 07-01-2019, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

How fast do you want it? I have Xfinity Blast. With Fiber-major fast. Mine has security and a camera on it.
Then there are limits on some.

Netflix will go up. But if you want all of the other options and shows, you have to pay for the services that provide them. How much is HBO streaming???

The point being, a cord cutter doesn't need to spend $250+ Dollars.

They can spend as little as $55 for internet (in some cases, less).

And then they can add whatever content based on what's in their budget.

Want Netflix AND HBO? Great. $85 total. And you can watch your sports in HD off Reddit.

**DaFace** · 07-03-2019, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

So when can I watch The World's Strongest Man and Gus???

Millennials take note

Internet connection 130.00
Netflix 20.00
Disney 40.00
Hulu 20.00
whatever 30.00

240.00 for cord cutting.

Yeah-you are really saving money.

I don't even know what this is. Are you just randomly making up numbers?

ToxSocks · 07-01-2019, 10:45 AM

People just won't pay for the shit, it's that simple. A-la-carte streaming services were partly popular because people were tired f being raped by cable companies.

Fact is, there's only so much money to go around. Just because Disney and NBC want to bury their content behind their own subscription doesn't mean im going to pay for it. It just means i'll stop watching their content.

And IF i just have to see it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy

#pirateTime

lawrenceRaider · 07-08-2019, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

This shit was bound to happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy

#pirateTime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

People just won't pay for the shit, it's that simple. A-la-carte streaming services were partly popular because people were tired f being raped by cable companies.

Fact is, there's only so much money to go around. Just because Disney and NBC want to bury their content behind their own subscription doesn't mean im going to pay for it. It just means i'll stop watching their content.

And IF i just have to see it:

This trend of moving everything behind a paywall will be a relatively short lived effort. You'd think these companies would have learned from the huge amounts of people cutting cable over the last 10+ years that we just don't want to pay the huge fees for little return. They'll get a bit of traction as their services roll out, and then people will cancel en masse and only subscribe when a new show they want to see is out.

Or pirate it all again and pay nothing for a service they would have paid a reasonable rate for as they have been with Netflix, etc.

ToxSocks · 07-01-2019, 10:48 AM

And this is free and can be installed on any streaming device.

https://pluto.tv/live-tv/

arrowheadnation · 07-01-2019, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

And this is free and can be installed on any streaming device.

https://pluto.tv/live-tv/

Sweet! Just added it to my Roku boxes. Thanks!

InChiefsHeaven · 07-01-2019, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

Sweet! Just added it to my Roku boxes. Thanks!

Is it an app? I'm not home yet so I won't be able to check it out for a little bit...

ToxSocks · 07-01-2019, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Is it an app? I'm not home yet so I won't be able to check it out for a little bit...

You can download it as an app for a streaming device. Or it's a website if you want to use on your desktop.

If you guys are looking for more free apps with decent content, try Sony's Crackle app if you havent already.

https://www.sonycrackle.com/

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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Streaming about to get very expensive (This article is from the UK, but applies here as well) Streaming TV is about to get very expensive – here's why With Disney, Apple and others about to launch their own services, a lot of your favourite shows are likely to vanish behind paywalls. The golden age of streaming is over Stuart Heritage The most watched show on US Netflix, by a huge margin, is the US version of The Office. Even though the platform pumps out an absurd amount of original programming – 1,500 hours last year – it turns out that everyone just wants to watch a decade-old sitcom. One report last year said that The Office accounts for 7% all US Netflix viewing. So, naturally, NBC wants it back. This week, it was announced that Netflix had failed to secure the rights to The Office beyond January 2021. The good news is that it will still be available to watch elsewhere. The bad news is that “elsewhere”, means “the new NBCUniversal streaming platform”. Is the end of Netflix's golden age in sight? As a viewer, you are right to feel queasy. The industry-disrupting success of Netflix means that everybody wants a slice of the pie. Right now, things are just about manageable – if you have a TV licence, a Netflix subscription, an Amazon subscription and a Now TV subscription, you are pretty much covered – but things are about to take a turn for the worse. In November, Disney will launch Disney+, a streaming platform that will not only block off an enormous amount of existing content (Disney films, ABC shows, Marvel and Pixar films, Lucasfilm, The Simpsons and everything else made by 20th Century Fox), but will also offer a range of new scripted Marvel shows that will directly inform the narrative of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Essentially, if you want to understand anything that happens in any Marvel film from this point onwards, you’ll need to splash out on a Disney+ subscription. Apple will also be entering the streaming market at about the same time, promising new work from Sofia Coppola, Jennifer Aniston, Oprah Winfrey, Reese Witherspoon, Brie Larson, Damien Chazelle and Steven Spielberg. In the next three years, Apple will spend $4.2bn on original programming, and you won’t get to see any of it if you don’t pay a monthly premium. There are so many others. NBCUniversal is pulling its shows from Netflix for its own platform. Before long, Friends is likely to disappear behind a new WarnerMedia streaming service – along with Lord of the Rings films, the Harry Potter films, anything based on a DC comic and everything on HBO – that it is believed will cost about £15 a month. In the UK, the BBC and ITV will amalgamate their archives behind a service called BritBox. The former Disney chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg is about to launch a platform called Quibi, releasing “snackable” content from Steven Spielberg and others that is designed to be watched on your phone. YouTube is producing more and more original subscription-only content. Facebook is making shows, for crying out loud. And this sucks. Watching television is about to get very, very expensive. There will be a point where viewers are going to hit their tolerance for monthly subscriptions – I may be able to manage one more service, but only if I unsubscribe from an existing platform – meaning that TV will become more elitist, tiered and fragmented than it already is. There’s a huge difference between not being able to watch everything because there’s too much choice and not being able to watch everything because you don’t have enough money. Most importantly, we should all remember that this content war is hinged upon a fundamental misunderstanding of viewing habits. Netflix didn’t become a monster because people wanted to watch a specific show; it became a monster because people wanted to watch everything. When its streaming platform launched, people were spending more than £15 just to watch a single season of a show on DVD. So to be able to watch every season of a show – and every season of hundreds of others of shows – for a fiver a month was revolutionary. The whole point of Netflix was that it was a relatively affordable bucket that contained an awful lot of television. That’s why people liked it. That’s why so many people subscribed and continue to subscribe. To pretend otherwise is to miss the point. That will be a memory soon. The Netflix model was great for viewers, but it couldn’t last. The content creators got greedy and scared, and now they’re determined to drag things back to the bad old ways. They will force everyone to pay for everything separately, and the subscriber base will split, and the providers will have to recoup the money they are spending to take on Netflix – such as the $500m that NBCUniversal spent to get The Office back, the $250m Amazon is spending on a Lord of the Rings series and the $500m that Warner just spent to win the services of JJ Abrams – which means that subscriptions will rise. Make no mistake: we’re the ones likely to get stiffed here. The golden age of television may be going strong, but the golden age of streaming is dead. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...sive-heres-why
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