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Old 07-31-2017, 10:53 AM   Topic Starter
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Any reason besides Dorsey drama to be down on the Chiefs?
Back in February, the Chiefs were widely considered to have a roster strong enough to compete for the division again in 2017. Now, the first big media outlet to release season predictions (USA Today) has the Chiefs going 8-8, and the general sense I've gotten online and from non-Chiefs fans I've talked to seems to be that they're going to be mediocre this year.

Admittedly, this has been a really weird offseason. But has anything really happened that should have people thinking the Chiefs won't compete? I feel like people are keying into the easy storyline (unexpected firing of GM leads to chaos and disarray) and forgetting that this team has Travis Kelce, Tyreek Hill, Marcus Peters, Eric Berry, (a hopefully healthy) Justin Houston, (an apparently good) Dee Ford, and a lot of solid players and continuity across the board. Alex Smith is a perennial concern, but this team has always managed to win with him anyway.

The schedule looks tough, but not daunting. The Raiders will be good, but not unbeatable. If everything breaks our way, 12-4 and the division seems totally attainable. If everything doesn't, 9-7 or 10-6 and a wild card berth seems like the floor. As I see it, it would take something close to a disaster to go 8-8 or worse and miss out on the playoffs entirely.

Am I being an overly-optimistic homer??
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Old 07-31-2017, 10:55 AM   #2
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The Chiefs didn't really get better in the offseason. Other teams did. It's as simple as that.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:00 AM   #3
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The Chiefs didn't really get better in the offseason. Other teams did. It's as simple as that.
Who? SD? Den? Who did Oakland add other than their QB coming back from injury. And a FA TE that was run out of GB for a better player?
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:04 AM   #4
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The Chiefs didn't really get better in the offseason. Other teams did. It's as simple as that.
Our front 7 is much better than it was in the last game we played.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:04 AM   #5
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USA Today has the Raiders in the AFC Championship game...based on what? Paying Carr and signing a 31 year old Lynch?

They have beaten a total of 2 play-off bound teams in two years. Both teams had Osweiler at QB...15-12 against Denver (2015) and Texans in Mexico.

Del Rio as a HC...I dont get it. The universal fake-hype is out of control.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:10 AM   #6
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USA Today has the Raiders in the AFC Championship game...based on what?
Based on playing in the 6th largest market in the US.

The Raiders, even when awful, get nearly as much pub as the Cowboys (and the Cowboys get more pub than just about any team, even when they're awful).
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:13 AM   #7
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Based on playing in the 6th largest market in the US.

The Raiders, even when awful, get nearly as much pub as the Cowboys (and the Cowboys get more pub than just about any team, even when they're awful).
They are going to get exposed playing a much tougher schedule...they needed a lot of last second wins against average teams last year.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:06 AM   #8
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The Chiefs didn't really get better in the offseason. Other teams did. It's as simple as that.
Which Divisional teams improved?

Which non-divisional teams, outside of the Patriots improved?

I'll be curious as to your answers.
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Old 07-31-2017, 12:10 PM   #9
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We still have Smith starting and the schedule is brutal. Until he proves otherwise that he can score with his arm we haven't gotten better.
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Old 07-31-2017, 01:41 PM   #10
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Which Divisional teams improved?

Which non-divisional teams, outside of the Patriots improved?

I'll be curious as to your answers.
Chargers maybe a little bit. Outside the division besides the Pats I'd say the Titans.
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Old 07-31-2017, 02:18 PM   #11
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Chargers maybe a little bit. Outside the division besides the Pats I'd say the Titans.
I'd agree that the Titan may have added to their core, which is shaping up to be pretty damn good, but Mike Mularkey's stint as a head coach is at a .370 clip.

The Chargers have a new head coach, who at this time last year, was the running backs coach in Buffalo. They're dealing with the move from San Diego to Costa Mesa/Carson, Philip Rivers refusing to move to Los Angeles and will commute 75 miles each way (about 5 hours round trip in LA traffic) and their first round wide receiver is likely to miss the season.

They signed Russell Okung (why?) and have two rookie guards. Playing in a 30,000 seat stadium, in which more than half the fans will be opposing the Chargers, probably isn't a good sign from them either.

They feel like a 5-11 team, once again.
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We're counting on a lot of young guys to step up and fill the holes on this roster.
Such as?
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Such as?
Hill is now the #1 WR on this team.
LG is still an issue and Ehinger won't be ready for the start of the season.
CBs are still in flux.
ILB is a mess.
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