Which QBs could win a Super Bowl with this roster?

[carcosa]

First of all, technically this isn't another Alex thread. It's a literally anybody else thread.

With all the rumors surrounding Philip Rivers, I started to think about whether he'd be able to win a Super Bowl with this Chiefs roster. Rivers is a very good quarterback, but he's not a no-brainer elite QB like Brady or Rodgers. While the Chiefs clearly have plenty of deficiencies outside of QB (especially in the running game on both sides of the ball), certain quarterbacks can help cover for those deficiencies by being more than a competent game manager. I came to the conclusion that yes, Rivers could absolutely win a Super Bowl here.

Which made me wonder, which other current NFL starters could win a Super Bowl with this Chiefs roster?? Poll forthcoming.

[ChiefsCountry]

Brady
Rodgers
Big Ben
Wilson
Brees
Ryan
Luck
Cam
Rivers
Flacco
Eli

Carr, Mariotta, Winston are too young just yet.

[carcosa]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Brady
Rodgers
Big Ben
Wilson
Brees
Ryan
Luck
Cam
Rivers
Flacco
Eli

Carr, Mariotta, Winston are too young just yet.

I think Carr could win one with us right now. Look at how well the Raiders did without an actual defense. Put him on this roster with a D that forces turnovers and prevents touchdowns, and all those close games Carr had to pull out this season turn into blowouts.

I'm not so sure about Flacco or Eli, even though they've won Super Bowls. They just feel like QBs who would never in a million years be able to win one in KC.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Brady
Rodgers
Big Ben
Wilson
Brees
Ryan
Luck
Cam
Rivers
Flacco
Eli

Carr, Mariotta, Winston are too young just yet.

Don't kid yourself, a guy like Carr could EASILY take the Chiefs to the Super Bowl. It's pretty difficult to win one, so I'm not saying we definitely would with him, but for example we would've SMOKED Pittsburgh.

Add:

Prescott
Cousins
Stafford

Maybe even others. This was a 12-4 team with Alex Whiff. The potential was quite immense with an actual QB.

[carcosa]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

Don't kid yourself, a guy like Carr could EASILY take the Chiefs to the Super Bowl. It's pretty difficult to win one, so I'm not saying we definitely would with him, but for example we would've SMOKED Pittsburgh.

Add:

Prescott
Cousins
Stafford

Maybe even others. This was a 12-4 team with Alex Whiff. The potential was quite immense with an actual QB.

Stafford's on my list.

Prescott hasn't had to elevate his team's play yet; he has an insanely good line and a generational talent at RB, not to mention reliable targets like Witten and Dez. I don't think he could carry the Chiefs roster to a SB... yet.

Kirk Cousins is Alex Smith with more interceptions.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by carcosa

Kirk Cousins is Alex Smith with more interceptions.

...oh yeah, and just those pesky 1500 yards, 10 TDs, a full YPA, etc.

Jesus, this place is an infestation of stupid. You people deserve Alex Whiff and Mark Castle. Hopefully we trade three 1sts for Sam Bradford and you can talk about his low INT and high completion % too.

[carcosa]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

...oh yeah, and just those pesky 1500 yards, 10 TDs, a full YPA, etc.

Jesus, this place is an infestation of stupid. You people deserve Alex Whiff and Mark Castle. Hopefully we trade three 1sts for Sam Bradford and you can talk about his low INT and high completion % too.

Lol. You think Kirk Cousins can win a Super Bowl and I'm the stupid one.

[dls6501]

Originally Posted by carcosa

Kirk Cousins is Alex Smith with more interceptions.

Are you insane? Cousins threw for a sliver under 5,000 yards this year....while completing the same amount of passes that Alex did. 60% of Cousins yards were air yards. Meanwhile, Alex ranked dead last amongst qualified starters in air yards, in spite of it being a personal career best. Cousins threw 25 touchdown passes, while Alex threw 15. They arent even close to the same quarterback.

Oh, and as far as interceptions go....yes, Kirk threw a whopping 4 more interceptions than Alex did.

Kirk Cousins is Alex Smith. Jesus, make it stop.

[carcosa]

Originally Posted by dls6501

Are you insane? Cousins threw for a sliver under 5,000 yards this year....while completing the same amount of passes that Alex did. 60% of Cousins yards were air yards. Meanwhile, Alex ranked dead last amongst qualified starters in air yards, in spite of it being a personal career best. Cousins threw 25 touchdown passes, while Alex threw 15. They arent even close to the same quarterback.

Oh, and as far as interceptions go....yes, Kirk threw a whopping 4 more interceptions than Alex did.

Kirk Cousins is Alex Smith. Jesus, make it stop.

Okay, he's Alex Smith with more interceptions and better overall numbers. His decision making is trash. He can't create any better than Smith can. He had an insane number of weapons this year and couldn't do shit with them.

If Kirk Cousins came to KC, he'd be run out of town in 4-5 years just like the last dozen retreads.

[Snica]

To be honest, I'm not sure any QB could win a SB here. Lets Trade for Aaron Rodgers and find out.

Seriously though, with the history of this organization, do you really think we will ever see a superbowl victory here? If we ever get the right QB we will have the wrong coach. Shit, Vermiel had the highest scoring offense in the league, the right QB and ****ed the team over by ignoring the defense.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Snica

To be honest, I'm not sure any QB could win a SB here. Lets Trade for Aaron Rodgers and find out.

Seriously though, with the history of this organization, do you really think we will ever see a superbowl victory here? If we ever get the right QB we will have the wrong coach. Shit, Vermiel had the highest scoring offense in the league, the right QB and ****ed the team over by ignoring the defense.

I saw the Chiefs play in two Super Bowls.
At this point I wonder if I will see another.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

I saw the Chiefs play in two Super Bowls.
At this point I wonder if I will see another.

The goods news I think is that the AFC is looking fairly wide open in the upcoming years. Brady can't really stay at this level forever (I think), Manning is gone, and the other super-elite QBs are in the NFC. Big Ben is very real, so he's a problem, but otherwise, the AFC is kinda wide open. We'll see if these new kids keep developing.

But that opens up possibilities for the Chiefs.

If you're a, whatever, Bears fan, you're pretty well ****ed for the foreseeable future. Between Rodgers, Cam, Dak, Brees (who also doesn't seem to be slowing down), Ryan and Wilson, you're pretty completely ****ed.

[St. Patty's Fire]

I was thinking the same thing regarding Rivers.

I'd say our chances of winning go up significantly if we replaced Smith with Rivers.

My list: Rodgers, Luck, Newton, Brady, Rape, Ryan, Rivers, Mascara boy, Brees, Wilson are all the ones where if you put them on this team we'd be odds on favorites. After that, Mariota, Winston, Eli, Precott, maybe Flacco.

[Amnorix]

My worry with Rivers is simple -- and I really do like him generally as a QB and person -- but he had some hella talented SD teams back when they had LT and GAtes and those guys, and I don't think he even went to a SB much less won one.

It does seem to me that the AFC was more talented overall back then, however.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

My worry with Rivers is simple -- and I really do like him generally as a QB and person -- but he had some hella talented SD teams back when they had LT and GAtes and those guys, and I don't think he even went to a SB much less won one.

It does seem to me that the AFC was more talented overall back then, however.

He lost to Brady twice and Big Ben once.